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Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#281

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Why give all your queries to a single company with an interest in tracking you and selling your data?

But don’t most ISPs do this? And if you use google’s DNS, for example, are they not doing this? Does cloudflare sell the data?

IMO all the more reason to run your own resolver and not just forward every query to a single entity.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#282

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> archive.today has a documented history of altering the archived content Wow, I had no idea. Thanks.

Archive.org has an even worse history of this, FWIW. It allows website owners and third parties to tamper with archived content. Look here, for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20140701040026/http://echo.msk.r... Archive.today is by far the best option available.

What does this example show? It shows „ad blocker detected“ for me.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

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post #271

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Which pages have they been caught modifying? And where's the evidence? I've seen this accusation multiple times but never with concrete details.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment... Under „Altering of archived pages“

This is quite scary, even if I'm a bit wary of accusation coming from this crowd notorious for having their own cabal(s).

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#286

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Jani here. What you describe as "doxxing" consisted of a) a whois lookup for archive.is and b) linking to a StackExchange post from 2020 called "Who owns archive.today" [1]. There is literally no new information about the site's owner in the post, all names have been dug up before and are clearly aliases, and the post states as much. [1] https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/145817/who-owns-...

If the site operator is working for the FSB, doxx away! Although the world needs a better alternative to Internet Archive, it shouldn't be an alternative that is an arm of an authoritarian government.

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Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#287

I think there are two angles to look at this. Yes, there’s the attack on the weblog. But there’s also pressure on archive.today, e.g. an FBI investigation [1] and some entity using fictitious CSAM allegations [2]. [1]: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/fbi-subpoena-tri... [2]: https://adguard-dns.io/en/blog/archive-today-adguard-dns-blo...

Jani Patokallio who runs gyrovague.com published a blog post attempting to dox the owner of archive.today. Jani justifies his doxing as follows "I found it curious that we know so little about this widely-used service, so I dug into it" [1] Archive.today on the other hand is a charitable archival project offered to the public for free. The operator of Archive.today risks significant legal liability, but still offers…

It is not "doxxing" but something weirder, "bulling" may be a better word, or as you said "stalking their favorite online celebrity".

The quality of investigation is too poor to be "doxxable", even Jani (in his reply here) accepts it, and no sensitive info is disclosured, but the blog post and its promotion here and there spread dangerous rumors like:

"AT is connected to Russia"

"AT is connected to Israel"

"AT is connected to Hackers"

"AT is wanted by FBI"

"AT does not like Nazis"

...

This is what Jani does.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#288
post #104

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I'm wondering if Jani is possibly going to walk into the wrong party here and get burned. I did some public archival stuff about a decade ago and it was state sponsored and for the intelligence community. I'm not suggesting this is but it'll be very much of interest to competing intelligence services as it's an information control point. None of those are the sort of people you start pissing off by sticking your dick…

Why would stuff for the intelligence community be made public? Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to keep it private?

They already mentioned info control. Also visitor and flow data prob juicier than the archives themselves for site like .today.

Oh, and a great injection point of malware, which can be more sophisticated and selective than the DDoS under discussion. Hard to come up with a more efficient browser-0day deployment pipeline if youre flying under radar and want to be able to target arbitrary individuals.

Re: Cloudflare flags archive.today as "C&C/Botnet"; no longer resolves via 1.1.1.2

#289
post #70

A bit context if you are confused why Public DNS server blocking websites. 1.1.1.2 is Malware blocking DNS server similar to AdBlock DNS server. It is not 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 Here is the DDoS context https://gyrovague.com

And for parents: 1.1.1.3 blocks adult content :)

Yeah I only ever use 1.1.1.3. Of note is that 1.1.1.3 is like 1.1.1.2 but with know adult sites also blocked, in addition to malware.
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