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Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by roarcher »

vkazanov wrote: post #278
roarcher wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter if it's a joke. The non-technical manager or VP making this purchase will not understand it and will expect poor treatment from this vendor, an expectation that will be reinforced by numerous other things on this page. There is no reason to include it at all.

It seems that you work a lot with managers who have no clue what they are buying and why. I mean, you're not wrong: buying enterprise software from Oracle or Microsoft or Salesforce is pure pain. But nobody expects buying niche hardware from a tiny vendor to involve the usual 128 pre/post sale meetings and 256 hours of professional services. Also, relevant VP buying these things usually do understand the difference b…

> It seems that you work a lot with managers who have no clue what they are buying and why.

There are certain quirks of this platform's user base that always make me laugh. For example, HNers absolutely love to imply something condescending about the other guy's workplace in order to make their point.

Watch this, I can do it too: Working with managers who make $65,000 (or $10 million) purchases with no more due diligence than reading a marketing page and clicking "Buy it now" is not the flex you think it is.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

kube-system wrote: post #247
roarcher wrote: post #221

> In order to keep prices low and quality high, we don't offer any customization to the box or ordering process. If you aren't capable of ordering through the website, I'm sorry but we won't be able to help. Has this guy never worked on a B2B product before? Nobody is going to order a $10 million piece of infrastructure through your website's order form. And they are definitely going to want to negotiate something ,…

The specs for the “exabox” scream “this is a joke” to me. > 20,000 lbs > concrete slab Huge-scale IT systems are typically delivered in one or more 42/44u cabinets, and are designed to be installed on raised floors.

It's a shipping container. Look at the dimensions. They say concrete slab probably half as a joke, half because building code would require it to consider it a non-temporary structure.

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Post by harvey9 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #12

There's some irony in the fact that this website reads as extremely NOT AI-generated, very human in the way it's designed and the tone of its writing. Still, this is a great idea, and one I hope takes off. I think there's a good argument that the future of AI is in locally-trained models for everyone, rather than relying on a big company's own model. One thought: The ability to conveniently get this onto a 240v circu…

If I'm spending at least 12k USD on the machine then doing some electrical works to accommodate it is not a big deal.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

briandw wrote: post #197
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're forgetting the wires? If you have one outlet with a 15-20A 120V circuit, then the wiring is almost certainly rated for 15-20A. If you just "combined" two 120V circuits into a 240V circuit, you still need an outlet that is rated for 30A, the wires leading to it also need to be rated for 30A, and it definitely needs a neutral. So you still need a new wire run if you don't have two 120V circuits right whe…

Correct me if I’m wrong, but doubling the volts doesn't change the amps, it doubles the watts. Watts = V*A.

Yes; I assumed 30A was minimum requirement for 240V service in US. Apparently I was wrong, 20A 240V is apparently normal. So in theory you could use a pre-existing 20A 120V circuit's wiring for a 240V (assuming it was 12/3 cable). And apparently 4-wire is now the standard for 240V service in US? Jesus we have a weird grid.

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Post by codemog »

roarcher wrote: post #221

> In order to keep prices low and quality high, we don't offer any customization to the box or ordering process. If you aren't capable of ordering through the website, I'm sorry but we won't be able to help. Has this guy never worked on a B2B product before? Nobody is going to order a $10 million piece of infrastructure through your website's order form. And they are definitely going to want to negotiate something ,…

I haven’t seen tinygrad used for any mainstream production project or thing of value, yet.

Besides a lot of self congratulatory pats on the back for how elegant it is. Honestly, when I read it, it looked confusing as all the other ML libraries. Not actually simple like Karpathy’s stuff.

All that to say, I do really want it to succeed. They should probably hire some practical engineers and not just guys and gals congratulating themselves how elegant and awesome they are.

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Post by yukIttEft »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #11

My interest in anything associated with geohot took a colossal nose dive today after seeing this post against democracy, quoting frelling M*ncius M*ldbug: Democracy is a Liability. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47469543 https://geohot.github.io//blog/jekyll/update/2026/03/21/demo... Theres a lot there that makes sense & I think needs to be considered. But a lot just seems to be out of the blue, included withou…

He had a video on Youtube where he proudly gloated about how he voted for Trump in not one but two elections, how happy he is that he can now openly talk about it, how its a fresh start for US, how catastrophic Harris would have been.

Did he take down the video because of embarrassment or did he fear negative impact on his sales?

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Post by qubex »

rick_dalton wrote: post #287
qubex wrote: post #279

I just backed their TINY on Kickstarter.

That thing is NOT related to tinybox or tinygrad in any way. It is basically copyright infringement. Unless you’re astroturfing here I suggest you get your money back.

Wasn’t astroturfing, I’ll look into it, thanks.

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Post by aiiizzz »

ivraatiems wrote: post #12

There's some irony in the fact that this website reads as extremely NOT AI-generated, very human in the way it's designed and the tone of its writing. Still, this is a great idea, and one I hope takes off. I think there's a good argument that the future of AI is in locally-trained models for everyone, rather than relying on a big company's own model. One thought: The ability to conveniently get this onto a 240v circu…

Why is hn so obsessed Scott whether something is _written_ by ai or not? Who cares? Judge content, not form.

Oh wait, I get it, it's bike shedding.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by signal_v1 »

paxys wrote: post #237
nine_k wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a hedge fund that does not want to trust to a public AI cloud just buy chassis, mobos, GPUs, etc, and build an equivalent themselves? I suspect they value their time differently.

Why do you think a hedge fund can't hire a couple of IT guys? Most of the larger ones have technical operations that would put big tech to shame.

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