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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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He has

Any references you know about?

One easy pick: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-02-28/tradin...

Note that his half-jokey proposal for a total of 30 minutes of trading time a day is at this point a running theme. If my memory serves me correctly, he started talking about this phenomenon in the pre-plague years.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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This is a naive view of what reporting entails and the difficulty of coalescing a report that meets the requirements of the audience the report is for. It isn't a numbers dump from a database, it requires substantial interpretation of things that the database does not and cannot contain. It isn't fiddling with the numbers, it is that the numbers can't contain things relevant to their representation for external parti…

> it requires substantial interpretation of things that the database does not and cannot contain. Do you have examples? This seems like something that is a solvable problem, and from the outside it can seem like it is only about not being willing to switch to a new paradigm. That unwilling ness can come from avoiding real consequences like loosing a competitive edge due to allocation of resources to the switchover.

When people think of automation I'm assuming their thinking of the financial statements (balance sheet, income, cash flows, equity).

Reporting also contains narrative explanations by management of: the company's financial health, updates on any new or existing market risks and the company's strategy to deal with them, any changes to controls or accounting procedures, updates on any new or existing litigation, and more.

These reports need to be certified for truth by the CEO, CFO, and relevant officers under penalty of 10+ years in jail and millions of dollars in fines personally.

It's also common to do a press release, earnings call, and investor presentation but those aren't required.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Maybe even just a single auction in the afternoon.

I saw this as a serious proposal somewhere but I can't remember where. There are exchanges out there that run continuously but with delayed information feeds.

The best known (at least in the tech circles - in good part thanks to HN and Matt Levine) is probably IEX. The exchange guarantees that every participant is behind the exact same time delay. And they do that by having a sufficiently long spool of optic fibre between the exchange "broadcast switch" and the market maker computers.

Simple and effective. Relies only on laws of physics to create the delay.

There are also exchanges that run with "frequent batch auction" principles.[0]

0: https://econpapers.repec.org/article/oupqjecon/v_3a130_3ay_3...

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

But on what time scale? Before a few connected entities make a profit or after?

Milliseconds?

Any overnight mispricing is going to become an arbitrage opportunity for market makers, hedge funds, and HFT firms...whom will then compete with each other to mine that arbitrage opportunity until profits go to zero, solving the market inefficiency and mispricing problem over time (and by over time, I mean like probably the first few nights and then it stops being an issue forever).

In other words, a liquidity-based mispricing that happens consistently every night is going to quickly stop being mispriced since its so predictable.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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I up you to continuous reporting. Audit should be inherent to the system, not a process after the fact. As a public company all owners should have access to daily closed books, and all companies should be able to close their books daily in 2026. Every six months being the cadence we learn how our companies we own are doing is absurd. It leads to really long dark periods. Also for employees it means we can only divest…

That is an absurd cadence. It is extremely expensive to do this reporting; an an enormous amount of useless activity is slaved to providing it in companies that need to. This is literally a call for more bureaucracy theater. The obvious net effect is that companies would structure themselves to no longer have the reporting requirement, as the cost of reporting exceeds the benefits. That would not benefit society at l…

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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But on what time scale? Before a few connected entities make a profit or after?

Milliseconds? Any overnight mispricing is going to become an arbitrage opportunity for market makers, hedge funds, and HFT firms...whom will then compete with each other to mine that arbitrage opportunity until profits go to zero, solving the market inefficiency and mispricing problem over time (and by over time, I mean like probably the first few nights and then it stops being an issue forever). In other words, a li…

Extracting value from the market as they do it and leaving everyone operating at normal time/capital scales with less. Or isn’t that what you meant?

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Dollars/receivables in and dollars/deliverables out is just a question of rate, unless I'm missing something. If a 10 billion dollar company has a per-second dollar out/in rate of $1,000,000 due to actual organic business, a company with $2,000,000 can set up an LLC it buys and sells from, and legally 'swap' $1,000,000 a second back and forth in services "bought and sold" to mimic the appearance of the $10B company,…

I'm fairly certain you're describing fraud.

It's not actually fraud if there is some ostensible service they're performing. Business units within businesses 'pay' each other for 'services' all the time. Ditto for subsidiaries. Whether something is fraud might come down to intent alone.

The line between legal and illegal business transactions can be murky as hell.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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If you're not trading overnight and there's a flash crash that corrects itself overnight... it's the people who are trading overnight taking money from each other.

Most Americans who invest money don't trade at all. They pay some guy at a bank to do it, and the guy at the bank is exactly the kind of guy who is trading at 3am.

Financial illiteracy will be the end of democracy

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

In the past, stupid situations on Wall Street have not resolved that way; they've resulted in disasters that cause economic harm to many people in the country and the world. Though sometimes people on Wall Street do make money from those situations.

Of course they have... There have been multiple 'flash crashes' which corrected in seconds.
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