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Shall I implement it? No

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Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by abrookewood »

torben-friis wrote: post #156
inerte wrote: post #144

Codex has always been better at following agents.md and prompts more, but I would say in the last 3 months both Claude Code got worse (freestyling like we see here) and Codex got EVEN more strict. 80% of the time I ask Claude Code a question, it kinda assumes I am asking because I disagree with something it said, then acts on a supposition. I've resorted to append things like "THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. DO NOT EDIT COD…

>I've resorted to append things like "THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. DO NOT EDIT CODE. DO NOT RUN COMMANDS". Which is ridiculous. Funny to read that, because for me it's not even new behavior. I have developed a tendency to add something like "(genuinely asking, do not take as a criticism)". I'm from a more confrontational culture, so I just assumed this was just corporate American tone framing criticism softly, and me com…

You can just put it in PLAN mode (assuming VS Code), that works well enough - never seen it edit code when in that state.

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by JSR_FDED »

hsn915 wrote: post #238

You have to stop thinking about it as a computer and think about it as a human. If, in the context of cooperating together, you say "should I go ahead?" and they just say "no" with nothing else, most people would not interpret that as "don't go ahead". They would interpret that as an unusual break in the rhythm of work. If you wanted them to not do it, you would say something more like "no no, wait, don't do it yet,…

Seeing as you’re telling people what to do, I’d say you need to spend time with different humans. Recalibrate.

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by inetknght »

tianrking wrote: post #241

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> If the UI asks a yes/no question, the “no” should be enforced as a state transition that blocks write actions, not passed back into the model as more text to interpret.

If the UI asks a yes/no question, the UI is broken.

I want more than just yes/no. I want "Why is this needed?", or "I need to fix the invocation for you.", or "Let's use a different design."

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by d_meeze »

joegibbs wrote: post #272
tianrking wrote: post #241

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Claude Code has added too much of this and it's got me using --dangerously-skip-permissions all the time. Previously it was fine but now it needs to get permission each time to perform finds, do anything if the path contains a \ (which any folder with a space in it does on Windows), do compound git commands (even if they're just read-only). Sometimes it asks for permission to read folders WITHIN the working directory…

Maybe if compound commands trigger user approval, don’t do compound commands

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by inetknght »

dostick wrote: post #213

Its gotten so bad that Claude will pretend in 10 of 10 cases that task is done/on screenshot bug is fixed, it will even output screenshot in chat, and you can see the bug is not fixed pretty clear there. I consulted Claude chat and it admitted this as a major problem with Claude these days, and suggested that I should ask what are the coordinates of UI controls are on screenshot thus forcing it to look. So I did that…

Are you sure you're talking about Claude? Because it sounds like you're describing how a lot of people function. They can't seem to follow instructions either.

I guess that's what we get for trying to get LLM to behave human-like.

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by gerdesj »

tianrking wrote: post #241

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LLMs are sold on the premise of doing cool stuff and reasonably understanding intent and doing it. The man on the Clapham omnibus would not miss-interpret "no" like that.

The LLM asked: "Shall I implement [plan]". The response was "no". The LLM then went on to "interpret" what no referred to and got it wrong.

As you say, it is amusing but people are wiring these things up to bank accounts and all sorts.

I'm looking into using a Qwen3.5 quant to act as a network ... fiddler, for want of a better word but you can be sure I'll be taking rather more care than our errm "hero" (OP).

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by thomaslord »

inerte wrote: post #144

Codex has always been better at following agents.md and prompts more, but I would say in the last 3 months both Claude Code got worse (freestyling like we see here) and Codex got EVEN more strict. 80% of the time I ask Claude Code a question, it kinda assumes I am asking because I disagree with something it said, then acts on a supposition. I've resorted to append things like "THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. DO NOT EDIT COD…

This is extra rough because Codex defaults to letting the model be MUCH more autonomous than Claude Code. The first time I tried it out, it ended up running a test suite without permission which wiped out some data I was using for local testing during development. I still haven't been able to find a straight answer on how to get Codex to prompt for everything like Claude Code does - asking Codex gets me answers that don't actually work.

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by technocrat8080 »

dostick wrote: post #213

Its gotten so bad that Claude will pretend in 10 of 10 cases that task is done/on screenshot bug is fixed, it will even output screenshot in chat, and you can see the bug is not fixed pretty clear there. I consulted Claude chat and it admitted this as a major problem with Claude these days, and suggested that I should ask what are the coordinates of UI controls are on screenshot thus forcing it to look. So I did that…

You can provide the screencapture cli as a tool to Claude and it will take screenshots (of specific windows) to verify things visually.

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by [deleted] »

dostick wrote: post #213

Its gotten so bad that Claude will pretend in 10 of 10 cases that task is done/on screenshot bug is fixed, it will even output screenshot in chat, and you can see the bug is not fixed pretty clear there. I consulted Claude chat and it admitted this as a major problem with Claude these days, and suggested that I should ask what are the coordinates of UI controls are on screenshot thus forcing it to look. So I did that…

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