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Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Post by zajio1am »

pocksuppet wrote: post #193
Muromec wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe at the very least has one parliament that sometimes passes laws that apply to almost the whole continent

Not really, it's not sovereign. The EU can pass laws that each European country chooses to implement. If they don't implement enough EU laws, they can get kicked out, which means more pieces of paper are written and some European countries might choose to afford them less privileges.

No. EU laws are of two kinds: directives and regulations. Directives work roughly as you describe, while regulations have direct effect like regular laws.

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Post by 0x457 »

Paracompact wrote: post #224
0x457 wrote: post #200

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> And for many people WFH has other problems - if you're a dual-WFH couple in a small home, lack of home office space is a very real problem. (Although if WFH was a permanent thing, many people could choose less expensive places to live, and have more space) Sure I get meetings you need to go to separate rooms, but how is the rest is different from a regular open office? Oh no, my co-working space has the person I li…

Meetings aren't infrequent for many jobs. As well, small homes may not have the desired desk space for multiple full-time offices.

Sounds like whoever is scheduling meetings need to adapt to a new asynchronous environment whereas many meetings isn't necessary.

I'm not saying everyone must be WFH or that everyone must have a home office. I'm just having hard time imagining how two people cannot WFH in a 1-bedroom apartment. Unless both of them work in a call center.

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Post by teamonkey »

manmal wrote: post #256
nuancebydefault wrote: post #230

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I work 4 days a week (started because of a medical condition) and I think more people should do that. I even think that in those 4 days i get as much done as most others in 5 days because I can focus better, and sometimes when I feel like working in the non-work day I work a few hours for fun and interest.

I‘m a big fan of the four day workweek idea, but let’s not kid ourselves. 5 days are 5 days. I work 10h days usually and I just wouldn’t be able to fit all that work into 4 days.

That’s because you actually work 6 days a week.

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Post by hunter2_ »

boplicity wrote: post #202
jghn wrote: post #84

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My favorite is when people say they like "asian cuisine" or "asian food". China alone has several distinct cuisines. Why do we act like this is a monolithic concept?

The term "Western" is often used in an equally broad sense, referring to Europe/North American culture.

That's always been a weird one for me. If I might quote Gemini's summary since it seems accurate enough:

> Geographical/Historical: The Bosporus Strait in Turkey is historically considered the dividing line between Europe (West) and Asia (East).

> Prime Meridian: The 0° longitude line running through Greenwich, England, is used to technically separate the Eastern and Western Hemispheres.

> Cultural/Political: Cultural definitions are often more relevant, placing countries like Australia, New Zealand, and North America in the "West" due to historical ties, despite their geographic location.

I suppose you're leaning into the "Bosporus Strait" option more than the "Prime Meridian" option, given that the former would put most of Europe in the West while the latter would put most of it in the East.

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Post by linkjuice4all »

electrosphere wrote: post #133
Apocryphon wrote: post #63

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What's your commute like? There are many aspects to the RTO vs. WFH debate, but having to waste away 1-3 hours a day on the road, coupled with the energy use in the OP, really cancels out the mental health aspects of being in office. It even detracts from the amount of work done.

The London office commute is 30 minutes train and 25 minutes walk. I really like that balance as it gives me sunlight, exercise and fresh air. I work from a library on the other day, thats a 30 minute drive. I tend to leave before 0700 when the roads are peaceful. My car is pretty fuel efficient, i try to hypermile it and get ~50mpg.

Imagine how much more sunshine you could enjoy working in the evening and enjoying the outdoors during the day - good thing they've got the exercise club.

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Post by royaltheartist »

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #64
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #11

I've long said that WFH is an easy win climate change solution that costs nothing, is well loved by everyone who participates (except management). Turns out in times like this, it's also an energy security measure.

Except driving in the U.S. following the pandemic was significantly higher than driving before the pandemic even though WFH was much higher. This claim might be true but it’s simply not showing up in the data which suggests that even if true, the effect is probably minor.

WFH doesn't actually stop driving. They don't commute, but they do run errands and other stuff during the day. This can actually result in more traffic during high peak periods since it can cause congestion build up to start earlier

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Post by stephbook »

asdff wrote: post #211
htx80nerd wrote: post #116

You could never do this in America because 50x judges would pile on and there'd be 100x lawsuits.

Labor laws in the US are designed for companies to skirt around the spirit of the law to satisfy the letter of the law. Probably to prevent rioting in the street from making people realize they haven't won the change they thought. Case in point, certain benefits that kick in at 40 hours to you know help people out. Companies responded by saying awe shucks, guess we will only schedule you 39 hours and if you want more…

The US air force literally bombs striking union workers (yes, US citizens in the US) when needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

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Post by 1718627440 »

andrewflnr wrote: post #68
recursive wrote: post #52

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What do you call it? It's a continent, right?

Calling Eurasia a continent would make more sense. "Asia" doesn't have a really sensical physical boundary. May as well say Mexico is a different continent from the US just because there's a big cultural and ethnic difference across the border.

The Ural mountains, the Black Sea and the Bosporus aren't sensical physical boundaries?

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Post by elzbardico »

darknavi wrote: post #134
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #11

I've long said that WFH is an easy win climate change solution that costs nothing, is well loved by everyone who participates (except management). Turns out in times like this, it's also an energy security measure.

I know it's a meme on HN to say everyone likes WFH, but I (and many but not ICs around me) thrive more in person. I am 100% more effective in person where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally. This can be recreated in a remote environment by having things like a team Discord that folks sit on, but it can feel forced at times (just like communiting to the office I suppose). My ta…

> where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally.

Can't you fucking do your homework beforehand, think your idea thoroughly, and then have at least a small written paragraphs about it before interrupting your colleagues.

Really, I am not a co-processor in a bus for you to dispatch a job to me and raise an interrupt line whenever the fuck you fancy doing it.

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Post by sunaookami »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #220

Meanwile germany goes to a 7-day week where people need to generate electricity with muscle power to save the climate.

we only need to connect Merz to a device that generates electricity out of bullshit and we will never have any problems again
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