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Post by s3p »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #89
roughly wrote: post #6

Next time someone asks how we're going to pay for, eg, free school lunches, keep this site in mind.

The question is fundamentally poorly formed, and as a consequence, so is the rebuttal. A state can pay for anything, since it doesn't have to be in a budget surplus. Household budget analogies emerge any time someone wants to limit spending, or criticize spending, but one of the biggest points of Wealth of Nations (which is the foundation for modern macroeconomics) is that the budget of a state is fundamentally diffe…

Where do you see a question?

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Post by lukan »

readitalready wrote: post #266
flyinglizard wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence o…

You do realize most Israelis were born there? Having a right to live where you are born is a pretty fundamental one.

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Post by lm28469 »

throwaw12 wrote: post #87

This doesn't include generational damage in sentiment: * Europe is in trouble because they can't get gas from Russia, Qatar stopped supplying gas * Japan is in trouble because Middle East supplies its 75% of oil, which is blocked now * Ukraine is in dilemma, because US giving every support to Israel, but not to Ukraine * Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain is asking questions, if US can't defend us and is moving all defensiv…

> Europe is in trouble because they can't get gas from Russia, Qatar stopped supplying gas

60% of it comes from the US, a lot from northern Africa too, not much comes from the middle east

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Post by cgio »

bawolff wrote: post #251
postflopclarity wrote: post #167

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sometimes there are more than two options between "do nothing" and the clusterfuck the current administration has embarked on.

Sometimes yes, but is there in this specific case? Because from my vantage point it looks like the choice is, status quo or bomb them. Its not like america can double sanction iran, they are already fully economically sanctioned. What is the middle ground here?

You could relax sanctions in exchange for other priorities. A persistent pain is less effective than an acute one anyway. There’s carrots too in negotiations. But no, we cannot do what a previous president did.

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Post by bdangubic »

lukan wrote: post #282
readitalready wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence o…

You do realize most Israelis were born there? Having a right to live where you are born is a pretty fundamental one.

President Trump would hard disagree with you on that one

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

mikepurvis wrote: post #174
bawolff wrote: post #52

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> But rather than protect global sea lanes, the US is bombing Iran. That’s not the same thing. Arguably the primary threat to modern sea lanes is Iran. Right now Iran is harrasing traffic. Previously the Houthis, generally considered an Iranian proxy, were harrasing traffic. Its all kind of the same war, this is just the end game.

The first gulf war was 1990. The US has been at war with various factions of the Middle East more or less continuously for thirty five years. The current president specifically campaigned on no new foreign wars and repeatedly tried to bully the Nobel committee into awarding him a peace prize before accepting a second hand one from another world leader and a sham one from FIFA of all things. What makes anyone think th…

The only end game here is distraction from the Epstein files and a potential coup to prevent midterm elections. The whole war is just plain stupid.

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Post by antonkochubey »

readitalready wrote: post #266
flyinglizard wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There is no moral justification for Israel's right to exist. Israel does not have a right to exist. They exist purely as a foreign invasion force originally started by European Jews - who didn't even practice or believe in Judaism - in order to make their own private racist mediterranean resort state by killing the native people and stealing their land. What makes you think anyone would want support their existence o…

I wonder if perhaps something has happened to European Jews in the 1930s that made them look for a place to re-settle

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Post by JohnTHaller »

google234123 wrote: post #76
JohnTHaller wrote: post #32

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Iran probably wouldn't have blown up the $300m radar installation if we hadn't randomly attacked them.

Is there good evidence for this?

It'd been there for decades. And Iran stated that if attacked by the US and Israel they'd retaliate against US targets in addition to Israel.

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Post by don_esteban »

hereme888 wrote: post #258
don_esteban wrote: post #228

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Do you support Israel no longer being a threat to anyone else in the region, no matter what?

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Last I checked, International Court of Justice and International Criminal Court tend to disagree.

To say nothing about overuse/abuse of the term 'terrorist' and weasel words 'terrorist aligned ideologies'.

To say nothing about being randomly in the vicinity of a person Israel might consider terrorist might put you in mortal danger, simply because they do not care about 'collateral damage'.

To say nothing about being Palestinian child being a 'future terrorist'.

To say nothing about trying to document what they are doing might put you in mortal danger (just look up the number of journalists killed by Israel).

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Post by nprz »

hereme888 wrote: post #203
nprz wrote: post #194

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Do you really believe killing 175 children[0] will bring peace and prosperity to the Iranian people? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/world/middleeast/girls-sc...

That news piece was officially dismissed after investigation by the IDF and CENTCOM. I would bring to your awareness that you're using an emotional argument with no substance, and it discounts the decades of complex history in the region.

The IDF has burned through all credibility during their assault on Gaza. I do not think the US and Israel waging a war on Iran will result in a positive outcome for the Iranian people or the region. The end result will be chaos, misery, and suffering. The latest news is the US attempting to foment some sort or civil war[0]. I sincerely do not understand how anyone could advocate for this.

[0] https://www.itv.com/news/2026-03-03/united-states-seeking-an...

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