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US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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It increasingly feels like the US sees everyone as an enemy. Is it just the government that feels this way, or do the general population of the US feel like everyone else on the planet is an enemy?

The republican population and the foolish minded people who want to be centrists have led to this situation of democrats and republican politicians acting out this way. More than 50% hopefully don't feel that way. I don't

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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I wonder if he would go so far as to withhold access to US tech to this end.

I imagine if the current administration does, Europe could retaliate by withholding ASML’s tech or even doing a mass sell off of US treasuries. Europe is admittedly not in a position of strength compared to the US, but there are still a lot of levers they can pull.

Or they could withhold Ozempic. That would hurt too.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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> Europe...where they throw people in jail for social media posts? What do you think when they find out peoples' private convos? When did this happen?

Germany – Robert Habeck insult raids (2024–2025): Multiple citizens faced police raids, investigations, fines, or suspended sentences (jail risk if violated) for online posts calling Green politician Robert Habeck derogatory names like "idiot" or "moron," or sharing mocking memes, under Section 188 enhancing penalties for insulting politicians. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-greens-habeck-presses-charges-... Germany –…

> Multiple citizens faced police raids, investigations, fines, or suspended sentences (jail risk if violated) for online posts calling Green politician Robert Habeck derogatory names like "idiot" or "moron," or sharing mocking memes [...]

The police raids were done because of the posted Nazi images, NOT because of the Habeck insults.

Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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>American domiciled VCs and companies can outinvest just about any other competitor, Because every investor in the world put their money in the US. They knew the best companies and people would centralize around that hub. When the US is a rogue, isolated idiocracy -- already true, but the world takes time to adapt to this new reality -- how much of that money do you think will flow to the US?

"idiocracy" ... wow ... such a cool word! And so true. Thank you.

If the comment is not sarcasm (I can't tell reliably anymore), there's a movie called Idiocracy. I think the word comes from the movie, or at least its wide adoption was heavily influenced by it (because someone somewhere probably coined the word before the movie was made).

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Even as a US citizen ... I have started to decouple from US business that hold my data.

Same. I don't trust the US as much as the rest of the world does not trust them. They want control with little to offer for it. My data and compute is safer offshore at this time.

Control is one part of it. The other concerning part is leaks and sharing it with third parties.

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And here we are again, spreading lies right? Robert Habeck was NOT arrested, he and his friends were investigated in the broader case of neo-nazi propaganda which they were spreading as well. Unless you consider neo-nazi freedom of speech, of course. The Pinocchio case meant exactly one official letter sent to that guy, lol "arrests". The investigation was dropped and everybody criticized the investigation. Ricarda L…

I did not spread any lies ^ I did not say Robert Habeck was arrested Re the other cases: in a good democracy, insulting politicians should not be a crime and there should be no investigations for someone insulting a politician.

That is your POV. I fear that democracy erodes when there's insults, belittling, ... instead of exchange of arguments and the contest of ideas. Because at some point insults turn into ugly actions. Whether it's Charlie Kirk or Melissa Hortman.

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I imagine if the current administration does, Europe could retaliate by withholding ASML’s tech or even doing a mass sell off of US treasuries. Europe is admittedly not in a position of strength compared to the US, but there are still a lot of levers they can pull.

Or they could withhold Ozempic. That would hurt too.

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Re: US orders diplomats to fight data sovereignty initiatives

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Europe, if you want good tech businesses you need to create a tech business friendly environment. Banning US tech companies without creating (really) fertile grounds for business is just going to be shooting yourself in the foot. A replacement Google won't grow on a farm only fed worker/consumer fertilizer. It's almost diabolical that the only way Europe can get rid of the US, is to be more like the US.

Hmm. Where was http invented? Where was ARM invented?

Great. Where are the trillions of dollars that came from those inventions? In the US and China.
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