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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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>There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause. This document was last updated in October 2024, but I am a little surprised to see this still available on a .gov site.

Why?

because the Trump admin has been scrubbing gov websites of any evidence in support of climate change; they're even defunding parts of NOAA that research it

it looks like this one slipped through the cracks

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Future humans (if we survive) will look back at climate denialists (or who agree it exists but don't want to do anything about it or refuse to believe it's accelerated by CO2 emissions or burning fossil fuels), the same way we look back at the Catholic Church during the inquisition era who stupidly refused to accept a heliocentric world (and imprisoned and sometimes burned at the stake those who did).

Except that today's denialists, and the politicians/governments who enact their policies, are much much stupider, and dangerously so, because 1) we have much more evidence than the Church had, and 2) while there was relatively little harm in believing the Earth was the center of the solar system, there is great harm in believing that burning more fossil fuels doesn't accelerate global warming.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Previous climate changes happened over tens of thousands of years. This one is happening in decades. It's the speed, not the magnitude that matters. Change faster than evolution and migration will destroy ecosystems.

Yeah, I wonder how fast Chicxulub affected the earth when the majority of large dinosaurs were wiped out. The earth survived and evolved another set of new large animal masters. The beauty and diversity of nature we see around us has all evolved after several extinction level events which have all very rapidly killed ecosystems and changed the earths climate. It will do the same again after all humans are gone. This…

Wikipedia says 5,000 - 10,000 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_e...

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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thats a wild take... isnt this exactly the purpose of a dictionary: to reflect the words used in general language usage?

Right, the definition should reflect general usage. Did the general usage here just coincidentally change days after a Republican appointee used a word in a hearing? That’s a heck of a coincidence! No, what happened was that liberals used their control over putatively neutral institutions like M-W to advance their position in a political dispute.

I'm very curious how you happened to have, seemingly at the ready, a cite to a 5.5-year-old Fox News piece.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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you will age, you will weaken, you will cease, no choice or circumstance will change that. endeavor to create something that will persist through the eons, and that part of your mind will live forever.

The only people who created anything that will persist through eons are those who have launched objects into space, like Voyager 1. There is zero hope I will even be remembered years after death.

im quite sure im going to remember your post for the rest of my life.

thats a start.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Right, the definition should reflect general usage. Did the general usage here just coincidentally change days after a Republican appointee used a word in a hearing? That’s a heck of a coincidence! No, what happened was that liberals used their control over putatively neutral institutions like M-W to advance their position in a political dispute.

I'm very curious how you happened to have, seemingly at the ready, a cite to a 5.5-year-old Fox News piece.

I have a very good memory for anything I’ve read.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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The problem with Pascal's wager logic is you have to change your behavior based on all kinds of crazy low-probability events. You must worship every god, be an AI-doomer, a climate-doomer, a nuclear-doomer. Pascal's wager is generally agreed to be logically unsound, so it's somewhat insane that we've revived it in all these modern contexts. If you believe in it, at least be consistent and sacrifice a goat to Zeus eve…

Pascal's wager, as it relates to faith, is based on the premise that there is a lot to win in making the wager --but little to lose. In turn, that second part is grounded in the assumption (right or wrong, I won't judge) that living according to Christian principles brings benefits _in this life also_ to the individual who so chooses. So it seems a mischaracterization to present the essence of the wager as going out…

Exactly. For example, what if making such wagers is key in determining that you belong in "hell" for not being genuine?

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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What rules did I break? I'm confused. Edit: Ah ok an IP ban. I guess time to use a proxy. Moderation has rules. Censorship does not. Censorship is bad dang mmmkay? Editing again to post later cause you nuked replies for some reason: Sorry I don't conduct in personal attacks. I think you're confused. Feel free to list whom I attacked and where. No, censorship doesn't change definitions based on who uses it. Unless you…

An entire thwack of personal attacks, for starters. Not allowed here. I don't think that's so confusing. > Censorship is bad dang mmmkay? It's one of those words that mean different things depending on how people want to use it. I wouldn't personally use that word as opposed to moderation, curation, etc., but then I would say that wouldn't I. In any case, HN isn't an anything-goes site and never has been. If we didn'…

No, censorship doesn't change definitions based on who uses it. Unless you want to pretend like you're not censoring. You seem to have convinced yourself that your censorship is a form of moderation, very sad. You're free to censor whom and what you want, it's your site. Don't pretend it's moderation though.

Your guidelines are meaningless if censorship is so heavy handed and moderation non-existant. It's hard to moderate. It's easy to censor.

Anyway you have curated, through censorship, a place where people are afraid to share valid opinions that break no guidelines (except those magical ones you can produce in order to censor). You can congratulate yourself on that if you want. You've got a ghost town, whether you like it or not.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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The problem with Pascal's wager logic is you have to change your behavior based on all kinds of crazy low-probability events. You must worship every god, be an AI-doomer, a climate-doomer, a nuclear-doomer. Pascal's wager is generally agreed to be logically unsound, so it's somewhat insane that we've revived it in all these modern contexts. If you believe in it, at least be consistent and sacrifice a goat to Zeus eve…

Pascal's wager, as it relates to faith, is based on the premise that there is a lot to win in making the wager --but little to lose. In turn, that second part is grounded in the assumption (right or wrong, I won't judge) that living according to Christian principles brings benefits _in this life also_ to the individual who so chooses. So it seems a mischaracterization to present the essence of the wager as going out…

I disagree. If doing thing x brings benefits, then you have reason to do thing x regardless of the wager. Utilitarianism is sufficient.

The wager is only interesting on those rites where the expected-value is uncertain or unknowable.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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>There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause. This document was last updated in October 2024, but I am a little surprised to see this still available on a .gov site.

> This document was last updated in October 2024

Thank you for the date! When viewing in my default javascript-disabled mode, I couldn't find the publication date.

I'm also thankful to the NASA IT team that made this article, including images and formatting, viewable with javascript disabled.

> I am a little surprised to see this still available on a .gov site.

This was also my main reaction. In agreement with several other replies to your comment, this one must have slipped through the cracks.

After the HN affect raises awareness of this article, I wouldn't be surprised if it disappears too.

The article has great formatting for lay readers: the points are listed in a straightforward manner, photos illustrate each point, footnoted references are provided, and the conclusion is stated clearly at the top "There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.".

The refusal to support electrification across the board, in order to support the revenue streams of legacy petro-centric corporations, is the largest physical infrastructure damage being done to the US by the so called "conservative" demographic. IMHO this will form the central cause of the demise of the US empire.

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