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Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by moffkalast »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #259
munk-a wrote: post #186

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Upper management in Microsoft has been bragging about their high percentage of AI generated code lately - and in the meantime we've had several disastrous Windows 11 updates with the potential to brick your machine and a slew of outages at github. I'm sure it might be something else but it's clear part of their current technical approach is utterly broken.

Utterly broken - perhaps, but apparently that's not exclusive with being highly profitable, so why should they care?

Cause it's finally the year of Linux on desktop.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by xigoi »

Zetaphor wrote: post #195
ewuhic wrote: post #113

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Don't listen to the clueless suggesting Gitlab. It's forgejo (not gitea) or tangled, that's it.

Can you offer some explanation as to why Forgejo and Tangled over Gitlab or Gitea? I personally use Gitea, so I'd appreciate some additional information.

GitLab is slow as fuck and the UI is cluttered with corporate nonsense.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by [deleted] »

Sharlin wrote: post #271
OtomotO wrote: post #171

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Better to replace management by AI. Computers can produce spreadsheets even better and they can warm the air around you even faster.

I mean, the strengths of LLMs were always a much better match for the management than for technical work: * writing endless reports and executive summaries * pretending to know things that they don't * not complaining if you present their ideas as yours * sycophancy and fawning behavior towards superiors

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Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by toast0 »

estimator7292 wrote: post #180
jsheard wrote: post #120

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They're in the process of moving from "legacy" infra to Azure, so there's a ton of churn happening behind the scenes. That's probably why things keep exploding.

I don't know jack about shit here, but genuinely: why migrate a live production system piecewise? Wouldn't it be far more sane to start building a shadow copy on Azure and let that blow up in isolation while real users keep using the real service on """legacy""" systems that still work?

If you make it work, migrating piecewise should be less change/risk at each junction than a big jump between here and there of everything at once.

But you need to have pieces that are independent enough to run some here and some there, and ideally pieces that can fail without taking down the whole system.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by porise »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #280
porise wrote: post #57

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Companies used to be forced to sell parts of their business when antitrust was involved. The issue isn't the downtime, they should never have been allowed to own this in the first place. There was just a recent case with Google to decide if they would have to sell Chrome. Of course the Judge ruled no. Nowadays you can have a monopoly in 20 adjacent industries and the courts will say it's fine.

You've been banging on about this for a while, I think this is my third time responding to one of your accounts. There is no antitrust issue, how are they messing with other competitors? You never back up your reasoning. How many accounts do you have active since I bet all the downvotes are from you?

I've had two accounts. I changed because I don't like the history (maybe one other person has the same opinion I did?). Anyways it's pretty obvious why this is an issue. Microsoft has a historical issue with being brutal to competition. There is no oversight as to what they do with the private data on GitHub. It's absolutely an antitrust issue. Do you need more reasoning?

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by bovermyer »

Meanwhile, Codeberg and Worktree are both online and humming along.

Codeberg gets hit by a fair few attacks every year, but they're doing pretty well, given their resources.

I am _really_ enjoying Worktree so far.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by riddlemethat »

munk-a wrote: post #186
slyzmud wrote: post #158

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I know you are joking but I'm sure that there is at least one director or VP inside GitHub pushing a new salvation project that must use AI to solve all the problems, when actually the most likely reason is engineers are drawing in tech debt.

Upper management in Microsoft has been bragging about their high percentage of AI generated code lately - and in the meantime we've had several disastrous Windows 11 updates with the potential to brick your machine and a slew of outages at github. I'm sure it might be something else but it's clear part of their current technical approach is utterly broken.

CoPilot has done more for Linux than anyone expected. I switched. I'm switching my elderly parents away next before they fall victim.

Re: GitHub is down again

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

collingreen wrote: post #277
hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #134

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If the $$$ they saved > the $$$ they lose then yeah it is a success. Business only cares about $$$.

Definitely. The devil is in the details though since it's so damn hard to quantify the $$$ lost when you have a large opinionated customer base that holds tremendous grudges. Doubly so when it's a subscription service with effectively unlimited lifetime for happy accounts. Business by spreadsheet is super hard for this reason - if you try to charge the maximum you can before people get angry and leave then you're a t…

Yeah, but who cares about long-term? In the long term we are all dead. CEO only needs to be good for 5-10 max years, pop up stock prices and get applause every where and called as the smartest guy in the world.
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