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A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

brandon.wang

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Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Its a gen z trend. My nephews do the same. We are old.

We are not old, there is a reason the generation is said (in stats and polls) to be less professional than prior generations when entering the workforce

> less professional than prior generations when entering the workforce

Every older generation says that about the next.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

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Not the kindest take (and unlikely true).

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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IMHO the "killer app" aspect of OpenClaw (and similar) is that everything is now an API . We think of chat apps, like WhatsApp, as being ways to communicate with people, which is a nice way of saying they are protocols. When you want something, you send a message, and you get an answer, just like with HTTP, except the endpoints have been controlled by meat. With OpenClaw, the meat is gone. Now you can send a message…

If we insist on using that term, let's be more precise: Everything is a horrendously expensive API that will give you subtly incorrect behaviour at random.

Humans are also famous for introducing errors in their communication. I think the AI-to-AI interface will only improve on that .

The price is high now but will get cheaper, especially when compared to the cost of human labor.

Having said that, it sounds like an isolating and boring way to live.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Tangent: what is the appeal of the “no capitalization” writing style? I never know what message the author is intending to convey when I see all lower case. Normally I can ignore it, but the font on this blog makes it hard to distinguish where sentences start and end (the period is very small and faint).

You mention the technical aspect (readability) and others have suggested the aesthetic, but you could also look at it as a form of rhetoric . I'm not sure it's really effective because it sort of grates on the ear for anyone over 35, but maybe there's a point in distinguishing itself from AI sloptext. Incidentally, millenials also used the "no caps" style but mainly for "marginalia" (at most paragraph-length notes, o…

> [No-caps text] sort of grates on the ear for anyone over 35 [...] Incidentally, millenials also used the "no caps" style but mainly for "marginalia" (at most paragraph-length notes, observations)

I (a millenial) carried over the no-caps style from IRC (where IME it was and remains nearly universal) to ICQ to $CURRENT_IM_NETWORK, so for me TFA reads like a chat log (except I guess for the period at the end of each paragraph, that shouldn’t be there). Funnily enough, people older than me who started IMing later than me don’t usually follow this style—I suspect automatic capitalization on mobile phones is to blame.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

> Why do you need price trackers for airbnb?

More importantly, can Clawdbot even reliably access these sites? The last time I tried to build a hotel price scraper, the scraping was easy. Getting the page to load (and get around bot detection) was hard.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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Good point. Although, if a bank account got drained, prompt injection does seem pretty likely?

Probably, but not necessarily. Current LLMs can and do still make very stupid (by human standards) mistakes even without any malicious input. Additionally: - As has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, it can be difficult to separate out "prompt injection" from "marketing" in some cases. - Depending on what the vector for the prompt injection is, what model your OpenClaw instance uses, etc. it might not be easy…

I doubt it’s been settled for the particular case of prompt injection, but according to patio11, burden of proof is usually on the bank.

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

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- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

It's helpful to keep in mind that 'AI Twitter' is a bubble. Most people just don't have that many 'important' notes and calendar items.

People saying 'Claude is now managing my life!11' are like gearheads messing with their carburetor or (closer to this analogy) people who live out of Evernote or Roam

All that said I've been thinking for a while that tool use and discrete data storage like documents/lists etc will unlock a lot of potential in AI over just having a chatbot manipulating tokens limited to a particular context window. But personal productivity is just one slice of such use cases

Re: A sane but bull case on Clawdbot / OpenClaw

#290

- Why do you need a reminder to buy gloves when you are holding them? - Why do you need price trackers for airbnb? It is not a superliquid market with daily price swings. - Cataloguing your fridge requires taking pictures of everything you add and remove which seems... tedious. Just remember what you have? - Can you not prepare for the next day by opening your calendar? - If you have reminders for everything (respond…

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This is how billions of people across the planet manage their pantries. Get off this site and talk to real people more often.
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