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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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You are describing everything Microsoft has done since at least the late 90s.

Things were named fine back then. Small Business Server, Office, Frontpage, Internet Information Server, Visual Studio...

It's like ChatGPT, that goes with "Sora", instead of "Image Generation", which would have been very clear

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Its long term microsoft culture to be horrific at external naming

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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To this day I cannot wrap my head around the fact why did Microsoft allow a culture to grow inside the company (either through hiring, or through despondence) that at best is indifferent towards the company's products and at worst openly despises them? I'm sure no other tech company is like this. I think technologies like the Windows kernel and OS, the .NET framework, their numerous attempts to build a modern desktop…

To fix the Koolaid you need people that haven't drunk it.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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post #134

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>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

I'm "I don't know what Xbox is" years old.

Do you mean Xbox One? Or Xbox One X? Or Xbox Series X? Or maybe Xbox Series S?

Seriously, how?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

I don't think anyone is sleeping on it.

It's on the top of most leaderboards on lmarena.ai

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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So, is claude code really better than codex with latest gpt model, or do people just hate on openai so much that no one (but me apparently) is using them? I am asking this question seriously because if so I will make the switch, but codex seems to be quite good to me so I don't want to waste time switching.

Yes. It's much better. Codex is good for an extra review on plans. There's no need to switch. Use both.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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So, is claude code really better than codex with latest gpt model, or do people just hate on openai so much that no one (but me apparently) is using them? I am asking this question seriously because if so I will make the switch, but codex seems to be quite good to me so I don't want to waste time switching.

Codex is not a good harness, but GPT-5.2 and related flavors produce, in my experience, better code than Opus 4.5, and by a surprising margin.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Not that I disagree, but this is nothing compared to the ".NET" craze in the early 2000s. Everything had to have ".NET" in its name even if it had absolutely nothing to do with the actual .NET technology. There was also "Active" before that, but .NET was next level crazy...

I don't know, it seems comparable

Office.com is now "Welcome to Microsoft 365 Copilot"

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft never got that memo. They still measure LoC because it’s all MBAs.

If so, it hasn't always been that way. Steve Ballmer on IBM and KLoC's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHI7RTKhlz0 (I think it is from "Triumph of the Nerds" (1996), but I can't find the time code)

Ballmer hasn’t been around for a long long time. Not since the Red Ring of Death days. Ever since Satya took the reins, MBAs have filled upper and middle management to try to take over open source so that Sales guys had something to combat RedHat. Great for open source. Bad for Microsoft. However, Satya comes from the Cloud division so he knows how to Cloud and do it well. Azure is a hit with the enterprise. Then along comes AI…

Microsoft lost its way with Windows Phone, Zune, Xbox360 RRoD, and Kinect. They haven’t had relevance outside of Windows (Desktop) in the home for years. With the sole exception being Xbox.

They have pockets of excellence. Where great engineers are doing great work. But outside those little pockets, no one knows.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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post #243

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Exactly. In the 50 years history of Microsoft, Office ( Year ) was perhaps the best they did. Nadella might have fixed a few things, but Microsoft still have massive room for improvement in many areas.

Nadella has the golden ship taking on water right now. He has entirely botched AI top to bottom. He has screwed that up to such a degree that it would be difficult to overstate. If he doesn't correct these mistakes extremely soon, he'll unravel much of the progress he made for Microsoft and they'll miss this generation of advancement (which will be the end of their $3 trillion market cap - as the market has recently…

Did they put the Teams people in charge of AI?
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