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Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Did you catch the part where it crossed over into a crypto pump-and-dump scam, with Yegge's approval? And then the guy behind the "Ralph" vibe coding thing endorsed the same scam, despite being a former crypto critic who should absolutely know better?

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Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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Brought to you by the creators (abstractly) of vibe coding, ralph and yolo mode. Either a conspiracy to deconstruct our view of reality, or just a tendency to invent funny words for novelty

It’s brainrot, that’s what it is. I believe agentic coding could eventually be a paradigm shift, if and only if the agents become self-conscious of design decisions and their implications on the system and its surrounding systems as a whole. If that doesn’t happen, the entire workflow devolves into specifying system states and behavior in natural language, which is something humans are exceedingly bad at. Coincidentl…

We have programming languages because people don’t want to only write assembly.

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Did you catch the part where it crossed over into a crypto pump-and-dump scam, with Yegge's approval? And then the guy behind the "Ralph" vibe coding thing endorsed the same scam, despite being a former crypto critic who should absolutely know better?

I mean, if I, as a crypto critic, saw an opportunity to suddenly make hundreds of thousands or millions on a fully legal but shady crypto scheme - purely by piggybacking on some other loudmouth (Yegge) - I'd be very hard pressed not to take it.

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Your org doesn't track engineering impact? What about git stats? I can tell you the guys that are consistently pushing code AND having the biggest impact are using LLM tools.

Are we measuring productivity by lines of code again? This was treated as unserious for decades.

Why ignore where I mention engineering impact??? Come on, be real here

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That was very weird. In the post where he was arguably "shilling," he seems to have signposted pretty well that it was dumb, but he will take the money they offered: > $GAS is not equity and does not give you any ownership interest in Gas Town or my work. This post is for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any token. Crypto markets are volatile and speculativ…

> I think he's not very much to blame for taking the money from degenerate gamblers, and the cryptocurrency idiots are mostly to blame for their own mistakes. I empathize with the disdain for crypto idiots, but I still think the people running or promoting these scams deserve most of the blame. "There's a market for my poison" is every dopamine dealer's excuse.

Yeah, and I don't want to be involved in that shit. Yeggae can go fuck off.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment. It pushes and crosses boundaries, it is a mixture of technology and art, it is provocative. It takes stochastic neural nets and mashes them together in bizarre ways to see if anything coherent comes out the other end. And the reaction is a bunch of Very Serious Engineers who cross their arms and h…

It’s not the whimsy. It’s that the whimsy is laced with casual disdain, a touch too much “let me buy you a stick of gum and show you how to chew it”, a frustrated tenor never stated but dog whistled “you dumb fucks”. A soft sharp stink of someone very smart shoving that fact in your face as they evangelise “the obvious truth” you’re too stupid to see. And maybe he’s even right. But the reaction is to the flavour of c…

Don't forget a bit of crypto! People are being way to nice going "I don't understand, but ...". Fuck him.

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> I don't get the widespread hatred of Gas Town. Fear over what it means if it works.

Has it written anything of quality?

beads is a 275k line todo tracker (probably more now). Yeggae is proud to have never read the source. I'm sure its high quality.

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It's a half-joke. No need to take it that seriously or that jokingly. It's mostly only grifters and cryptocurrency scammers claiming it's amazing. I think ideas from it will probably partially inspire future, simpler systems.

It may be a joke in the same way that brogramming was a joke and somehow became an enduring tech bro stereotype

Strong agreement with this. The whimsical, fantasy, fun, light hearted things are great until a large enough group of people take them as a serious life motto & then try to push it on everyone else.

Re: Gas Town's agent patterns, design bottlenecks, and vibecoding at scale

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> If you read Steve's writeup, it's clear that this is a big fun experiment: So, Steve has the big scary "YOU WILL DIE" statements in there, but he also has this: > I went ahead and built what’s next. First I predicted it, back in March, in Revenge of the Junior Developer. I predicted someone would lash the Claude Code camels together into chariots, and that is exactly what I’ve done with Gas Town. I’ve tamed them to…

I agree, I’m one of the Very Serious Engineers and I liked Steve’s post when I thought it was sort of tongue in cheek but was horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering. There absolutely is a large contingent of engineers who believe this, and it has a real world impact on my job if my bosses think you can just throw a dozen AI agents at our product roa…

> horrified to come to the HN comments and LinkedIn comments proclaiming Gastown as the future of engineering.

I don't spend much time on LinkedIn, but basically every comment I've read on HN is that, at best, Gas Town can pump out a huge amount of "working" code in short timeframes at obscene costs.

The overwhelming majority are saying "This is neat, and this might be the rough shape of what comes next in agentic coding, but it's almost certainly not going to be Gas Town itself."

I have seen basically no one say that Gas Town is the The Thing.

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