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EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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post #55

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Builtwith reports this website is built with Framer, is this an official EU asset? If that's the case it's also a declaration of intentions.

the FAQ clearly states that it isn't an official EU website, it was used for petitioning the EU to consider this proposal.

Thanks for poiting this out

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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post #73

Local Taxes… the issue with EU is the taxes and cost of labour.

While that’s also true, the EU varies widely. The tax wedge is very low in places like Czechia or Lithuania and very high in France and Germany. If you add other European countries you get some of the lowest taxes on earth in places like the Isle of Man or Switzerland.

Having said that, the lack of proper integration is a huge problem, like imposing tarrifs of over 100% on ourselves.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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post #186

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It is pretty common, when discussing matters of law and business - not geography, to read "Europe" as "the union of Europe" and not "the continent of Europe". Much like "an American firm" doesn't mean Canadian or Brazilian. See comment above: > Its obviously EU I know how continents work. I don't think you know when contextual usages of language work.

I think you can see from this thread that there is a lot more ambiguity when talking of "Europe", and also pushback against using "Europe" to mean "EU". It's not obvious, that's why I asked the question. I'm not stupid but just living in a different context to you, apparently, and have reasons to push back against this misuse of the word "European". One might have said the use of the word "American" was misuse engine…

I don't agree that it's "misuse". it's a use, a common use. No pushback is called for. You asked a question about the title that was answered in the title - "EU–INC" means "EU" in this case. It's clear from context, and if that fails from the article. Others have said the same.

I don't "live in that context", I'm aware of it can can use it when appropriate.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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As a Dutch person I never understood this push until someone told me (and this is true in 2026!!!) that if you open a LLC (Gmbh?) in Germany you have to physically go to the notary and have a person READ OUT all the statutes to you. The whole process including banks accounts etc... can apparently take months in total. Personally I would not create "EU-INC" but just make all local entities legal in every country. Then…

This is true of all contract notarization in Germany (even when buying a house, jesus that is a slog), and although it is a bendy-banana level silly thing that people focus on, isn't actually the biggest problem in company founding here. MUCH more problematic is unfavorable tax rules making equity compensation difficult, capital requirements, legal/notary fees, and an investor class that is notoriously skittish. If y…

That's crazy. Notarization in Estonia can be done entirely online using a digital signature, just like everything else here is done (including voting, getting married, getting divorced, filing taxes, opening/closing a company, etc). From all I hear Germany is still stuck in the 90s for some reason.

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post #216

My Dear German friends, please accept that EU-inc is a massive boost for EU competitiveness. Continuing to block progress here only proves that the EU is good at making promises on paper but fails to deliver real change. The reason this "28th regime" actually works—and bypasses the previous vetos — is that it’s optional. It doesn’t try to force Germany to change its local GmbH laws or kill the notary system overnight…

National sovereignty is not national pride. Paying company taxes to the 28th regime evicts tax contributions to the company's home nation. Massive German tax money is already today used for non-national interests. EU-inc makes this only worse.

National sovereignty in Europe is not possible without international collaboration.

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post #260

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> You know that EU bureaucrats do what each country want them to do right? I'n not entirely sure about that. The vast majority of entrepreneurs are complaining about unrealistic requirements and inconceivable burdens in Germany. Certainly no one wants any of this. Yet somehow the rules pile up.

You said > In Germany And then > Yet somehow the rules pile up. Which is just German culture as much as food is Italian. If you want rules for everything I'm hard pressed to think of a more regulated country than Germany. And the populace, in general, might scoff at how long things take but absolutely want to understand what the process is... So yeah, you can't have it both ways

> hard pressed to think of a more regulated country than Germany.

Unfortunately the influence of Germany over other EU countries is quite strong in terms of regulations.

Absolutely no one wants more regulations, yet they slowly pile up in the whole EU. I live in Poland, where regulations are incomparably more sane than those of Germany, but even here it slowly grows.

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You know that EU bureaucrats do what each country want them to do right? Each time the Commission comes with a new rule, most countries agree with it. And if its an "unpopular", the game for each gov is to blame the EU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6481969.stm

> You know that EU bureaucrats do what each country want them to do right? I'n not entirely sure about that. The vast majority of entrepreneurs are complaining about unrealistic requirements and inconceivable burdens in Germany. Certainly no one wants any of this. Yet somehow the rules pile up.

Bureaucracy is a beast with its own life, it doesn't care what regular people want. In fact most folks' requirements go directly against objectives of this beast, since people want it as small and as weak as possible, while beast need to be fed and feels internally it needs to be strong. Anything not related to gaining or maintaining strength is antagonist.

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post #232

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You can, Deel etc. make this pretty easy.

How certain are you of this? I only have anecdata, but when I tried to use a 3rd party agency to hire someone in France, from Ireland I got the process through several layers of management, up to and including the CEO and COO of my American employer, and HR, and legal counsel, only to be warned away in the most emphatic terms by external counsel. They told us of the risk of large fines and jail time in France for exe…

> They told us of the risk of large fines and jail time in France for executives of companies doing this.

Just for hiring someone from France?

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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> a company should be able to register in x days Which EU bureaucrats will fully pass by treating this as "a company should be able to register in x days once the full set of documents has been collected".

Companies are treated like persons legally and while I'm sure there is too much bureaucracy in many places, I'm also sure that there are important documents that should be required. For example to make sure that a company can be held responsible when it breaks the law. There are already enough loopholes to disconnect legal responsibility from profit-taking, and not every company is benign. Sure, if the documents cann…

There is a huge spectrum between "require impossible documentation" and "require none". Germany and EU are heading towards the former.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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post #216

My Dear German friends, please accept that EU-inc is a massive boost for EU competitiveness. Continuing to block progress here only proves that the EU is good at making promises on paper but fails to deliver real change. The reason this "28th regime" actually works—and bypasses the previous vetos — is that it’s optional. It doesn’t try to force Germany to change its local GmbH laws or kill the notary system overnight…

National sovereignty is not national pride. Paying company taxes to the 28th regime evicts tax contributions to the company's home nation. Massive German tax money is already today used for non-national interests. EU-inc makes this only worse.

> Massive German tax money is already today used for non-national interests.

Please elaborate. You're complaining that DE tax funds go to the EU? Very curious what you're talking about and your rational.

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