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Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by adventured »

bojan wrote: post #212
csense wrote: post #177

I think the administration's real goal isn't taking over Greenland. I think it's scaring the EU enough about the possibility the US might take over Greenland that the EU pays to fortify it so the US doesn't have to. (Somebody needs to fortify it, because the world is warming and it will become a strategically important trade choke point when a Northwest Passage opens up.) Just like Trump being hot-and-cold on Ukraine…

That would be a horrible deal for the Greenlanders, and they know it - there were polls recently and Vance was pretty much told that when he visited there. The US is allowed for decades to have a military presence on Greenland, but the US Army has been diminishing it's presence as the time went by.

Up it to $5 million per Greenlander then. The US can afford to pull the trigger on a $250-$280 billion acquisition. The EU can't afford to counter it. To put that sum into perspective for the US economy: that's merely 2.x years of operating income for Google. There's no scenario where the people of Greenland reject that $250b offer in a free vote.

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Post by isoprophlex »

rhyperior wrote: post #123
isoprophlex wrote: post #54

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It would be extremely funny if they were to end one of these statements with "thank you for your attention to this matter"

Except that’s just normalizing his behaviors.

"tHAnK yOu fOR yOuR ATteNTiOn to tHIs mATtER" then

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Post by DetectDefect »

undeveloper wrote: post #162
DetectDefect wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also put a bumper sticker on your car decrying world events and this would have about as much effect as your suggestions.

striking is extremely tangible compared to protesting

This thread is about effectiveness, not tangibility (which ironically proves my point).

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Post by malfist »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #71
United857 wrote: post #52

Despite all the talk about military action, the fact is that Europe is one of the main trading partners of the US and holds a substantial share of US debt. Any invasion would be economic suicide, and I think even Trump realizes this.

I'm not convinced trump cares about economic suicide at all

Trump barely thinks about first order effects, much less second order. He probably doesn't know it's economic suicide. And when it happens he'll tell us both "nobody knows more than me" and "nobody knew global commerce was this complicated" and then he'll tell us he'll have a plan to fix it in two weeks

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Post by metabagel »

profsummergig wrote: post #237
r_lee wrote: post #188

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There wouldn't have been a problem if the US would've just done a deal go deploy all their stuff on Greenland, hell, even a whole autonomous military zone or something? But nooooo, they gotta buy the whole thing like it's Alaska or something. I don't get it. Especially because now Russia/China will actually get real interested in the Arctic, plus that they now have an opportunity to disrupt the alliance and delegitim…

Like Trump, I too am a (albeit, small-time) real estate guy. Ownership gives me tingles that renting could never give me. You rent a place for 30 years, diligently pay rent, and in the end you own nothing? Pshaw.

Trump wants to acquire Greenland and rent it back to the Greenlanders.

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Post by kubb »

garganzol wrote: post #248
kubb wrote: post #207

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Seemingly? Do you have any indication that this is a consistent pattern in the world outside of imagination?

If you think that it's just an imagination, the universe will make you physically feel what it really is. Not all at once, but gradually, drop by drop. And then, you'll learn the true meaning of another "meme" word: ignorance.

Or you’ll find out that strong men thinking in memes create even worse times.

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Post by FpUser »

stavros wrote: post #166
FpUser wrote: post #86

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>"I still can't tell whether Trump is actually an asset of Russia, or just insane." Why do people keep looking for Putin under their bed in the mornings? Trump does not give a flying fuck about Putin. He has no problems sanctioning Russia. Trump just does what he wants to do. Meanwhile EU kept sucking up to him instead of standing up. Now the EU reaps what their rulers sowed.

Because, when all of Trump's moves just happen to benefit someone, a person might ask whether that is more than just a coincidence.

This is utter bullshit. He has no problems hurting Russia as long as it safe for him. But Trump works for Trump only. Some other party benefitting or loosing is not his concern.

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Post by maxerickson »

simonsarris wrote: post #222
matsemann wrote: post #147

Can't Denmark just stop selling ozempic or so to the US? Would be an uproar in no time.

Eli Lilly has GLP-1 injectables and will have an oral pill this year. Novo Nordisk has already dropped that ball. Hence Eli Lilly +40% in the last year and Novo -23%. Or on a longer timescale you can see the problem: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVO:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved...

What should they have done differently to prevent a competitor from entering a valuable market?

"Pricing power fell when someone else entered the market" isn't dropping a ball is why I ask.

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