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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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anal_reactor wrote: post #199
voidfunc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe cant afford to have enemies on both sides. It will align with the US reluctantly because even a bat shit crazy US is better than Russia. China plays it too close to the chest to be a friend.

> Europe cant afford to have enemies on both sides Neither can the US. Imagine Europe supporting China in exchange for China backstabbing Russia - entire Ukraine and Belarus and maybe even Kaliningrad suddenly are up for grabs for EU while China gets Russian territories that it has historical claims to. Then China gets access to European technology (ASML and Airbus) which means that the US stops having massive techno…

Seems you forgot about these things called nuclear missiles.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by cudgy »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #182

Being from the UK - one of the privileged few to be tariffed - I couldn’t give a fuck about this. The thing that makes me viscerally angry in my soul though is reading about Greenlanders who are now stocking up on food and/or making plans to leave their country if the worst case happens. What the actual fuck. I can’t believe this is the reality we’re living in. So, tariff away. As someone else said, it’s a badge of h…

So throw caution to the wind because a country (not your country) with 100,000 people are stressed out about geopolitics and possibly being acquired by the richest nation in the world?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by cudgy »

koonsolo wrote: post #205
jensgk wrote: post #141

The US is a complete mess and completely unreliable as a defense and business partner. Trump is driving Europe towards China. Even though China supports Russia against Ukraine, China seems much more dependable to do fair business with.

China is predictable, since they act in self intrest. No idea what the hell US is doing.

Self interests of whom? China is a diverse, huge country.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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fatbird wrote: post #251
ofrzeta wrote: post #134

What's next? Will he stamp on the ground like a five year old? I mean, there's this treaty between the US and Denmark that they can build military bases etc. "The U.S. has such a free hand in Greenland that it can pretty much do what it wants," said Mikkel Runge Olesen, a researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies in Copenhagen. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/world/europe/trump-greenl... So what…

Trump wants to brag, and be remembered, for adding Greenland to America, in the same way that Alaska was bought from Russia, or Louisiana from the French.

Or California (most of western US) from Mexico. Or Florida from Spain. What’s left?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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AnimalMuppet wrote: post #152
forgotTheLast wrote: post #150

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The tariffs are claimed to be a national security emergency and without the approval or Congress, therefore the composition of Congress won't matter unless the Supreme court judges otherwise.

But the Supreme Court is going to judge, sooner rather than later. I sincerely hope they will rule against Trump (that seems to me the way that the merits of the case demand).

Supreme court cannot rule against all tariffs. Some tariffs will remain and adminstration can “reclassify”.

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Post by cudgy »

pan69 wrote: post #154
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #79

So Trump doesn't like the fact that some European countries dare to oppose his dictat, so in response he's going to... raise the prices on US consumers ?

Yeah, it's crazy. Punishing Europe by increasing American's cost of living.

Tariffs have had less effect on prices in US than one would think. Inflation is lower.

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shlip wrote: post #45
alibarber wrote: post #23

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I think he knows the end* is drawing near and he hasn't got long to cement his legacy in painting more of the map in his colours. * 'end' being anything from nature's course, to losing the support of his own inner core as they jostle for succession, upcoming midterms leading to impeachment...

Well he's been impeached twice (then acquitted) already, so this one will not really mean the end for him.

Do you know what impeached means?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by cudgy »

aebtebeten wrote: post #119
komali2 wrote: post #74

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Or, he's acting like a man that doesn't have to worry about elections.

In my personal life, I've learned the hard way that when people seem to be acting irrational with regard to an iterated game, before ascribing irrationality to them it can be very helpful to examine if they're short timers, acting rationally with regard to a game that won't be iterated.

like the CEO of every public company and most politicians

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Post by defrost »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #278
cudgy wrote: post #268

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How long till you abandon the pathetic Democratic party? It's been 10 years since 2016. Or are you simply reduced to an anti-Trumper?

Two party system is such a mess. I blame two party system more than anything. When you reduce everything to two party, its so reductive and this is the mess you are gonna have to face because of it.

A key point is that it's an electoral system from hundreds of years past that was never intended to be a two party system, one set up by founders who in the large wre not even fans of party politics (one, two, or more).

It is a system that by it's design is more or less doomed to iterate into a Hotelling's law quagmire of two nose to nose opposing sides neither of which represents any kind of majority or popular view.

The US electoral system is well past due for a revamp, as recommended by it's founders who judged it "good enough" for a while ... until a despot appeared.

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DustinEchoes wrote: post #95
Trasmatta wrote: post #27

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Every morning I wake up wondering if it's happened yet, and every morning (so far) I've been disappointed

I was glad when the Butler shooter missed. Now I’m not so sure.

So you would prefer Trump be a martyr?
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