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I talked to these people minutes ago, on the thread about the murder. Trumpists are finding ways to rationalize this assassination. Just like they did Jan 6, the bombings of fishing boats near Venezuela, the other exactions ICE committed, Trump being Epstein's closest friend, etc. Then I listened to the Vice President claiming she was an "unhinged left-wing lunatic", that she had been radicalized and that she was try…
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> talk with them and learn No. Democrats always take the high road and what has that gotten them? A fascist regime and a political movement (MAGA) that floods the zone with bullshit when the gestapo does something bad. Republicans stormed the capitol, killed police officers, and delayed the election process. What happened to them? Some lackeys got put in jail, and no one at the top faced consequences. Trump then pard…
Read these. Were you this upset when Obama was using ICE? If not, why? https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairn... https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/violation-constituti... https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/exiled-obama-adm...
- post AI videos mocking immigrants?
- open a facility called Alligator Alcatraz?
- say "homegrowns are next" when talking about deportations?
- immediately call victims of ICE violence domestic terrorists?
- deport people to a labor camp (CECOT)?
- send ICE into cities of his political opponents to cause property damage, stoke tensions, detain people, and execute them? (see: Chicago, Minneapolis, etc.)
- allow ICE commanders to throw up Nazi salutes?
There is no decency; cruelty and theatrics are the point. This admin is on a revenge tour and is using ICE as their secret police force. If that's not obvious by now, you should get out of the MAGA bubble and improve your media diet.
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Careful, without any further qualification you just endorsed Stephen Miller.
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Read these. Were you this upset when Obama was using ICE? If not, why? https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairn... https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/violation-constituti... https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/exiled-obama-adm...
The onus is on you to explain how Obama's terms are relevant to what ICE is doing now. Did Obama: - post AI videos mocking immigrants? - open a facility called Alligator Alcatraz? - say "homegrowns are next" when talking about deportations? - immediately call victims of ICE violence domestic terrorists? - deport people to a labor camp (CECOT)? - send ICE into cities of his political opponents to cause property damage…
The ACLU called Obama a monster, and they call Trump a monster, too.
Obama set the precedent, I agree Trump added childish and cruel rhetoric. ( But the use of ICE is the same with Obama and Trump. )
I do not agree on Nazi actions, etc. That’s exaggeration and it’s not useful.
So do we agree that on the deployment and tactics of ICE that Obama and Trump are roughly equal? If you don’t condemn Obama, is it fair to say you don’t condemn the use of ICE to deport?
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The difference between us that I know exactly what ( and even why ) I advocate for: keeping the system stable. She was a not some random citizen; I would have been addressing it differently if that was the case. Now, if you have a stomach for it, we can go over what kind of citizen she was.
What kind of citizen was she, comrade?
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The onus is on you to explain how Obama's terms are relevant to what ICE is doing now. Did Obama: - post AI videos mocking immigrants? - open a facility called Alligator Alcatraz? - say "homegrowns are next" when talking about deportations? - immediately call victims of ICE violence domestic terrorists? - deport people to a labor camp (CECOT)? - send ICE into cities of his political opponents to cause property damage…
You didn’t answer the question. The ACLU called Obama a monster, and they call Trump a monster, too. Obama set the precedent, I agree Trump added childish and cruel rhetoric. ( But the use of ICE is the same with Obama and Trump. ) I do not agree on Nazi actions, etc. That’s exaggeration and it’s not useful. So do we agree that on the deployment and tactics of ICE that Obama and Trump are roughly equal? If you don’t…
> So do we agree that on the deployment and tactics of ICE that Obama and Trump are roughly equal
No, they're not the same as I've demonstrated. I'll ask again: did Obama do those things above? You can keep pretending that "ICE is only there to deport people" but as reality has shown, that's not true. They show up to events to intimidate, they tear gas and shoot protestors, etc. all the while cabinet members cover for their abhorrent behavior because the cruelty is the point.
This conversation is obviously going nowhere so I'll let you keep living in fantasy land and obfuscating with "but Obama!!" like usual. Maybe you'll repent one day.
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Its important to not be hyperbolic in these times. The two technologies ICE uses rely on permission for apps tonuse geolocation data for advertising purposes. Same reason you start seeing ads for local things when you travel. Technically they can subpoena cell records to see which towers your phone connects to, but this is not viable for multiple people. For privacy, if you care, having a rooted degoogled phone with…
> phone with no sim card is sufficient enough It's most certainly not. Phones connect to a cell tower even without a SIM to make emergency calls. The phone can still be tracked and it's not a difficult leap from there to identify the owner of the phone.
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Most K1 applications are approved, most are female, most are not white. I doubt your case would have been any different had you not been a "'the right color' and a high-earning male".
She wasn't referring to K1 visas specifically, she was referring to USCIS and how they'd prioritize dealing with enforcement actions against people in non-compliance with their visa obligations. And I'd suspect as an immigration attorney, she likely had first-hand experience of same.
Jamaica, not known for having lots of people with pale skin, has basicaly same approval rate as Germany. https://visagrader.com/visa-approvals-and-refusals/K1/jamaic...
https://visagrader.com/visa-approvals-and-refusals/K1/german...
Would be unlikely that the USCIS radically changed their approach when dealing with paperwork messups for populations if these different countries while apparently approving applications at basically the same exact rate.
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I wonder what conclusion the FBI's investigation will come to because it sure doesn't look good for ICE to me. Best case, those two agents get sentenced to life for murder but the damage is done and a life taken. If the officer fired two shots and she died at the scene then it seems reasonable to me the bullets didn't go through the windshield and, instead, went through her rolled down window while she was turning aw…
Given that this administration appointed the head of the FBI due to his loyalty to Trump, the most likely reason they took over the investigation is to shield ICE from any accountability.
In the case of the Enquirer, this was through buying exclusive rights to inconvenient stories and refusing to publish them. In the case of the FBI, it's by claiming exclusive jurisdiction over incidents and quashing or impeding independent investigation.
See "Former National Enquirer boss breaks his silence on 'catch and kill' as lead witness in Trump trial" (2024) https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/23/media/national-enquirer-catch...> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_kill> (concept) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_Kill> (Ronan Farrow book).
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I wonder what conclusion the FBI's investigation will come to because it sure doesn't look good for ICE to me. Best case, those two agents get sentenced to life for murder but the damage is done and a life taken. If the officer fired two shots and she died at the scene then it seems reasonable to me the bullets didn't go through the windshield and, instead, went through her rolled down window while she was turning aw…
This administration’s FBI is run by podcasters and completely incompetent.