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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Can you please re-share this as a separate link? It deserves it's own attention

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46547303 There was a recent post containing a (different) map of the protests that was flagged, but here goes

The mods here seem to definitely have an agenda… but they can’t silence us

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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There are ~100,000 users, about 0.1% of the population: https://www.newsweek.com/starlink-usage-iran-skyrockets-brea... Compare that to the number of cell phone users which is very close to 100%. All estimates of the number of mobile subscribers or number of mobile phone numbers are greater than the total population.

Possibly the number of users is even larger, if people can share a terminal. Wifi 802.11s Mesh with Batman routing scales very well to huge sizes.

This is already assuming terminal and account sharing. I meant to link this story, the original source: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202501060034. The stat is based on 30,000 unique users. I don't know how many actual terminals there are, probably a few thousand.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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> I don't think that in iran there would still be any available ipv4 entry nodes that they would allow. They would filter/block it as well? That's what bridges are for. Blocking is a cat and mouse game. It depends how heavy handed they are about it, but unless they totally cut off the external internet, its unlikely tor is 100% blocked, although it might be effectively blocked for most people.

Tor is used relatively little in Iran - https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-country.html... Other tools are much, much more popular, such as Psiphon, Lantern, MahsaNG, etc.

yes, my ex gf from iran also used Psiphon, I didn't trust psiphon that much but it seems that its decently well

In the end I had suggested her protonvpn as psiphon had some issues.

How does Psiphon work and how does it compare with protonvpn? I still trust protonvpn (which has free access as well) more than Psiphon fwiw.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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I hear after the Ukraine war, Starlink became very good at thwarting jamming. I am confident the Iranians are not as sophisticated as the Russians in than front.

The Russians are themselves heavy users of starlink.

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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

No, they're just better educated about Iran than are you. Iran provides substantial food, fuel, education and healthcare subsidies to the average citizen and has a very effective state bureaucracy which functions independent of political appointees. Pensioners' checks are issued regularly and social services are delivered by charitable "Bonyads", which are run by local mosques, which don't report to any government mi…

My ex was iranian and we frequently talked about iran and you are so wrong.

She had frequent black outs with complete electricity downage for many hours a day and she was in a major city

One of the largest problems is that Iran's average income is so poor and the rising inflation and rising prices.

They didn't even have a battery or something which could store electricity while it came because the batteries were so expensive that one of them cost like 1 month of salary of average iranian.

Things were really tough, she told me about the education system and she had to recently move to govt school and she said that there were just not any books available.

She really disliked the regime. She was liberal and I asked her about hijab and she said that she was forced to wear in schools and that the only contacts that they usually did was with their brothers. The society is extremely strict to a point of no return.

The average Iranian person either barely scrapes by or was/is actively being suffered by authoritarian brutality from the ground reality of extremist islamist radicalism that their govt put them on.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

No, they're just better educated about Iran than are you. Iran provides substantial food, fuel, education and healthcare subsidies to the average citizen and has a very effective state bureaucracy which functions independent of political appointees. Pensioners' checks are issued regularly and social services are delivered by charitable "Bonyads", which are run by local mosques, which don't report to any government mi…

Just go there, live there if you think that's true. It isn't it's the same argument that communist believers do about Venezuela, Cuba and North corea they will support those government but they won't move there or even ask the people there how they actually live.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

>Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness But the Iranians are white. The name Iran is literally derived from "Aryan".

Iran comes from the word rougly translating to the word noble, and noble in sanskrit translates to the word Arya

Aryans aren't necessarily white or black especially in the sanskrit context of things.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow. [1] https://www.itu.int/en/…

Where are the ground stations Iranian traffic is using?

Starlink usually lacks the bandwidth to tunnel traffic very far. In most countries the ground station is in the same country. My bet is, a neighboring country, within reach of Iranian missiles. Oman and Turkey are listed but that data is old.

But its not about censorship in the usual sense really. Its about preventing peer to peer communication. With less than a percent of iranians having access to each other either locally or via foreign internet, they cut down their ability to organise significantly. Starlink doesnt offer a solution here. Starlink doesnt matter. Every starlink person could turn up to a protest and it would still be less impactful than previous protests.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Can't wait for a certain dictator to get a cellmate, so that our Persian and Kurdish friends can have freedom, including free unrestricted internet access. And for fellow HN users from there, here's some great stuff: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://bitchat.free/

Sure, a US invasion of Iran would undoubtedly lead to good things. And how can you say the Kurds are friends of the USA (I'm presuming you mean friends of the USA) given how many times they've been abandoned? Just take a look at what happened to Libya, sometimes removing a "bad person" will cause a far worse situation to evolve. Like literal human slavery. I will never cease to be amazed at the amnesia that arises wh…

You also forget how panama Germany, Japan, South Korea are better now after removing their authoritarian regimes.
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