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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by nicoburns »

pphysch wrote: post #249
nicoburns wrote: post #176

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> presumably China would still want to keep selling those products and would have an interest in avoiding destroying those factories There are rumours from seemingly credible sources that Taiwan has the TSMC factories (at least the ones located in Taiwan) rigged with explosives that they intend to trigger in case of invasion by China (as a disincentive against China invading). So China may well not have any say in th…

Why would Taiwan destroying its own assets disincentivize annexation goals that have existed long before computer chips were produced there?

Presumably at least in part because China's just as dependent on TSMC as everyone else (at least for the time being). So it's a form of Mutally Assured Destruction, kind of like nuclear weapons. If they actually have to be used, then everyone's in for a bad time, but seeing as nobody wants that, it acts as a disincentive.

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Sander_Marechal wrote: post #245
SirMaster wrote: post #232

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Building a PC price is not double lol and RAM is nowhere near up 6-8x https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-pro-overclocking-32g... That 32GB for $274 was not $34-$45 in the summer. RAM is up like 3x, but RAM is one of the cheaper parts of the PC. RAM that was $100 in summer is like $300 now when I look. So that's an extra $200 maybe $300, on say a $1500 build. GPUs are not up, they are still at MSRP: https://www.b…

The MRSP for those GPUs is already inflated. There's a reason Nvidia is going to start making more RTX 3060 GPUs. Because people (and system builders) can't afford 40XX and 50XX GPUs.

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Post by ulrashida »

conductr wrote: post #198
zwnow wrote: post #179

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> It's fine to want that but let's not pretend "rent should be illegal" is a serious or reasonable policy proposal. So its fine for you that there are people owning 20+ properties speculating on profit for basic human needs? Its literally Nestlé "this is MY water" behavior.

Most people here are pro capitalism. It has flaws but you’re also being blind to its benefits. If 20 people need homes to live in and can’t afford to build them, suddenly landlords/investors have a place because they built housing inventory where others couldn’t. They won’t do that for free though and why should they. I remember your username from prior threads, you’re a troll man. Take this crap to Reddit.

It's a bit telling of your own biases that government/public housing seems to have escaped mention as "having a place" in this scenario.

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Post by cruffle_duffle »

jerf wrote: post #180
andruby wrote: post #144

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That's a terrible gift! Did the g(r)ifter know it needed such a subscription?

An immense amount of abuse is being done to "consumers" because most people don't have a mental model for how expensive subscriptions are and end up counting them as nearly free, because they are not even tomorrow's problem, but next month's problem. Entire industries run on that principle, like the burgeoning buy now pay later space (which promise no interest but I promise you they're not making money on a whole bun…

“I've been annualizing all my subscription fees for a long time now and dealing with the resulting number, but that's still an unpopular approach.”

This is my trick. I simply take the monthly price and multiply am by ten to quickly get a crude imperfect annual cost (adding two more months if I wanted to be exact)

Then I’ll look and go gee is this thing actually worth $150 or whatever the value is and ask “or more” assuming I wouldn’t cancel?

The answer is usually no. I’m slowly teaching this trick to my elementary school daughter.

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Post by nradov »

kllrnohj wrote: post #231
cyberpunk wrote: post #177

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I’m not even sure it does cost more. I could have a geforcenow subscription for like 8 years before it’s more expensive than building a similar spec gaming rig.

Depends on how much you play. geforcenow is limited to 100 hours a month, with additional hours sold at a 200% premium. This dramatically changes the economics ( https://www.techpowerup.com/344359/nvidia-puts-100-hour-mont... has a handy chart for this )

Yikes. If you're playing more than 100 hours a month then it's time to touch grass.

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Post by arcanemachiner »

SirMaster wrote: post #232
TrackerFF wrote: post #89

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Difference is that if subscription goes up from $10 to $15, that doesn't seem to bad. But if you want to purchase a new computer, and the price goes from $1000 to $1500, then that's a pretty big deal. (Though in reality, the price of said computer would probably go up even more, minimum double. RAM prices are already up 6-8 fold from summer)

Building a PC price is not double lol and RAM is nowhere near up 6-8x https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-pro-overclocking-32g... That 32GB for $274 was not $34-$45 in the summer. RAM is up like 3x, but RAM is one of the cheaper parts of the PC. RAM that was $100 in summer is like $300 now when I look. So that's an extra $200 maybe $300, on say a $1500 build. GPUs are not up, they are still at MSRP: https://www.b…

Here is some proper data:

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/

The same site also has price trends for CPUs, video cards, etc.

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Post by SirMaster »

TrackerFF wrote: post #263
SirMaster wrote: post #232

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Building a PC price is not double lol and RAM is nowhere near up 6-8x https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-pro-overclocking-32g... That 32GB for $274 was not $34-$45 in the summer. RAM is up like 3x, but RAM is one of the cheaper parts of the PC. RAM that was $100 in summer is like $300 now when I look. So that's an extra $200 maybe $300, on say a $1500 build. GPUs are not up, they are still at MSRP: https://www.b…

Where I live, a pair of Kingston FURY Beast Black RGB DDR5 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) has literally gone up from what is equivalent to $125 this summer, to currently selling for what is equivalent to $850. Obviously this depends on where you live.

I think looking at the same exact product from the same retailer is not really the full story. Personally I would accept looking at the same exact spec ram across retailers in your region. Maybe its still a lot more for you, but in the US it's not as bad as I see people say.

Realistically people normally buy whatever ram is the cheapest for the specs they want at the time of purchase, so that's the realistic cost increase IMO.

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Post by sneak »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Eggs and hard currencies like gold are also going up as denominated in USD.

It’s not so much that the things are increasing in value as much as the part of large scale inflation that the federal government can’t hide by cooking the CPI.

The dollar is in freefall.

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Post by SirMaster »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #287
SirMaster wrote: post #232

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Building a PC price is not double lol and RAM is nowhere near up 6-8x https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-pro-overclocking-32g... That 32GB for $274 was not $34-$45 in the summer. RAM is up like 3x, but RAM is one of the cheaper parts of the PC. RAM that was $100 in summer is like $300 now when I look. So that's an extra $200 maybe $300, on say a $1500 build. GPUs are not up, they are still at MSRP: https://www.b…

Here is some proper data: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/ The same site also has price trends for CPUs, video cards, etc.

It's OK data, but the average can be skewed high by some vastly inflated options that nobody cares about.

Most people will pick a ram spec and buy whatever is the cheapest kit for that spec at the time.

I think the best data view would be what is the cheapest available kit for each spec over time rather than the average price of each kit.

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