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Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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Post by asveikau »

dmix wrote: post #151
wswope wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't really mean much until individuals can also sacrifice a small percentage of their ARR to completely ignore IP law. I'd take that deal, but until it becomes and option, we have a clearly broken system. Rules for thee; not for me, etc.

People always say this like the tech industry wasn't culturally anti-copyright and pro-creative commons before. Those same people probably work at Meta and Anthropic, just like Google's book project which got them in trouble.

Wasn't the Google project scanning physical books and not distributing them externally? That seems like a very different thing than torrenting or even downloading stuff uploaded by a third party.

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Post by toraway »

Hendrikto wrote: post #159
xvector wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely a smear campaign, ironically one that seems to be organized by left-leaning individuals on Wikipedia, Business Insider, etc. Which is bizarre to me because aren't these the people that would want the ability to disseminate information in the face of fascism? They are attacking their own side (again.) When will idealists learn that this is not the way?

> aren't these the people that would want the ability to disseminate information in the face of fascism? Everybody wants free speech — but only for opinions they agree with. And they are against censorship — unless the "right people" are censored. Recently, the left has been far more authoritarian, labeling everything they don't like as "far right hate speech", pushing to make dissent illegal, and demanding censorshi…

> Recently, the left has been far more authoritarian

I'm not sure how a reasonable comparison of authoritarian behavior seemingly assigns more weight to random Wikipedia contributors lumped together as "leftists" compared to the literal government currently controlled by the right that is routinely threatening to pull FCC licenses for critical speech among other intentionally speech chilling threats.

I'd say the pendulum has already swung the other way, while swinging much, much further and more openly than nebulous mob demands for "cancel culture", over zealous Twitter moderation of hate speech or whatever else the previous go-to examples for the left were. Before 2025 showed what a truly authoritarian anti-free speech policy looks like when wielded by those with actual legal power and zero shame.

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Post by seabrookmx »

nkozyra wrote: post #260
yaur wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is ridiculously easy to create an album with Suno and push it Spotify. I'm surprised its only 66% TBH

1. Generate slop music nobody will ever listen to 2. ???? 3. Profit

It's actually:

1. Generate slop music no _human_ will ever listen to

2. Use a botnet to "play" this music en masse

3. Profit

This is a whole arms race, with companies (such as Beatdapp) specializing in detecting fraudulent plays.

Source: I work for a niche music retailer that struggles with the same issues on a smaller scale.

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Post by amatecha »

This happened a couple days ago, not "a few hours ago". I was surprised torrentfreak hadn't posted about it at the time -- maybe took them a while to notice? I tried to hit the site on Jan 2nd, 10:40pm pacific timezone, and the domain was inaccessible then.

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Post by hamdingers »

mmooss wrote: post #273
hamdingers wrote: post #267

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They are, but archiving without publishing is pointless. I occasionally wonder how many enormous collections of culture like that of Marion Stokes[1] have been lost because their curators made no effort to realize the value of their collection. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Stokes

Most archives - the ones in libraries, etc. - are not published, except they are available to qualified people who physically travel there. Most are not even fully indexed - nobody knows all of what's there.

My perspective is compatible with this fact. An archive that approximately nobody can access and/or nobody knows what it contains has no value to society at large, except the potential that it may some day be published.

The good news is I'd guess the number of (nonreligious/nonproprietary) institutionally managed pointless archives is dwindling.

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Post by squigz »

nashashmi wrote: post #198
squigz wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://annas-archive.li/blog/backing-up-spotify.html

> For now this is a torrents-only archive aimed at preservation, but if there is enough interest, we could add downloading of individual files to Anna’s Archive. Please let us know if you’d like this. If it is torrents only, what relevance does unregistering the domain make?

Ideally, if AA doesn't have any public web presence it's a lot harder to publicly disseminate those torrents.

Realistically, it's just a way for someone to say something is being done about this, even if it's not going to actually make a difference.

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Post by soldthat »

redeeman wrote: post #278
gpm wrote: post #217

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As much as I'd like to claim the values [1] that Wikimedia (the foundation behind wikipedia) supports as a progressive - I think they're quite independent of the progressive/conservative spectrum. [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/public-policy/

well I guess if they claim it themselves. I heard Israel doesnt think its comitting genocide, that Russia is rightously doing gods work. Whom did i hear it from? well, themselves of course!

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Post by krick »

iso1631 wrote: post #253
krick wrote: post #224

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To be completely fair, I am not certain what it means for a track to be "virtually unplayed". First off, it was striking to me how little of the "top 10 000" they published back on Christmas I recognize. I'm not sure what I expected, but 10 000 sounds like a big number, so it seemed likely to me, that if I get a random song from my playlist I could find it there. It turned out I hardly can find an artist I recognize.…

> It turned out I hardly can find an artist I recognize I've heard of 9 of the top 10 and 15 of the top 20 at https://chartmasters.org/most-monthly-listeners-on-spotify/ You might not listen, but surely you have heard of Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay and of course Christmas Staples of Mariah Carey and Wham?

First off, this is not the top we are talking about, since there is one that AA provided[0]. I am not sure what it matters which names exactly I've heard of, but if you are that curious: I don't know what is Ed Sheeran and Wham (but cannot vouch I've never heard their music in a supermarket), but I definitely remember "Coldplay" being mentioned in a joke onstage by a NIN member[1], but I didn't bother to check out what they are. I can imagine the faces of Taylor Swift & Justin Bieber, but cannot name any song, and I'm sure I've heard Mariah Carey somewhere, since that name is around longer than Rihanna. I have a song or two of Ariana Grande in my playlist though.

Edit: Ok, I've finally googled "Coldplay". Yeah, definitely heard "Clocks" somewhere.

[0] https://annas-archive.li/blog/spotify/spotify-top-10k-songs-...

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qboe5CebixA

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Post by omoikane »

silisili wrote: post #259
hliyan wrote: post #13

Is this an abuse of the ServerHold status? Was this the same mechanism used to delist a Gaza video archive recently? > This status code is set by your domain's Registry Operator. Your domain is not activated in the DNS. > If you provided delegation information (name servers), this status may indicate an issue with your domain that needs resolution. If so, you should contact your registrar to request more information.…

Used to work for a registry. Registries do not just arbitrarily serverHold things they don't like. Even in blatant abuse cases, they'll reach out to the registrar to clientHold it or delete it instead. I suspect this came from a court order. The only time I remember serverHolding things were from court orders or other legal requests(FBI/DHS/etc). Though the latter would often just ask for the nameservers to be change…

I remember itch.io was put on serverHold by having someone claim there was "fraud and phishing":

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42363727

But .org is managed differently from .io, so maybe a more formal legal action was taken.

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Post by doublerabbit »

OvbiousError wrote: post #143
luckys wrote: post #41

https://annas-archive.li/ works and there's a few alternatives listed at the bottom of the page

Doesn't work where I live, is the block on a country level?

Blocked here too and all alternatives.
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