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Re: Exe.dev

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Post by notepad0x90 »

docmars wrote: post #201
notepad0x90 wrote: post #199

unlike others, i like the site and the initial prompt. Lost me at "verify email" though. Why get so creative, yet limit yourself to archaic "email". Why do *YOU* the provider need me to have an email or a phone? Look, mullvad can provide vpn services without email or all that nonsense. If you want people who will use ssh to order things, these are the same people that would get your service because you're not asking…

It isn't a free service -- only during the alpha you get access to an "Individual" account which would normally run $20/mo once the test period is over. https://exe.dev/docs/pricing

Yes, it should be paid of course. Matter of fact, please charge me more for the privilege of not being asked email,phone, credit cards. Just take my money, and feel free to take whatever steps you think are needed to make sure abuse isn't taking places. I champion requiring a "deposit" where if abuse took place the user would forfeit it.

But, my original comment is strictly about email. Even if you asked for a government-id and credit-card payment, I won't object. Just please, no email!

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Post by notepad0x90 »

qudat wrote: post #212
notepad0x90 wrote: post #199

unlike others, i like the site and the initial prompt. Lost me at "verify email" though. Why get so creative, yet limit yourself to archaic "email". Why do *YOU* the provider need me to have an email or a phone? Look, mullvad can provide vpn services without email or all that nonsense. If you want people who will use ssh to order things, these are the same people that would get your service because you're not asking…

I run https://pico.sh where we don’t ask for email. Even on our website we instruct users to generate a token so if they do lose their key they can use it to recover their account. People regularly lose their ssh keypair and also don’t generate a token. I think using email as a form of recovery is totally fine and regardless when you have to pay for the service you’re going to give up your email (and other personal i…

I would eventually want even payment processors to stop asking for email. They have my address and government id, for any liability related reasons. ideally, we would use federated auth, where auth providers aren't using email at all. I'd imagine the complexity of your backend is simpler too as a result.

And kudos on your service, I'll keep it mind next time I'm picking a provider.

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Post by seabass »

Definitely going to give this a try. One thing I'm curious about--where are the servers? And if I want to choose hosting geographically close to me, how do I do that?

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Post by ethin »

crawshaw wrote: post #278
ethin wrote: post #269

You have got to make a better website design. I'm a very curious person so was able to figure out what this was but you cannot expect all visitors of your website to be that way. Also, stop charging for SSO/OAuth2 integration. Seriously. There's a huge list of services that stupidly charge for SSO/OAuth integration at https://sso.tax , and this list needs to get smaller, not grow. SSO doesn't cost anything to impleme…

[exe.dev co-founder here] Hi. Re: oauth2, the last product I built, Tailscale, only did auth by oauth2. I chose this because 1. businesses need it anyway, and 2. passwords are terrible. But it was a choice that does not come for free. I dread a page of buttons for third-party services, and the control I give them over my life. I hate that I never know if I should log in with GitHub, or Google, and for a dozen service…

I don't see how Oauth2 is a legacy technology. It will never be until all of the problems of passkeys are solved. And I very much wouldn't just dismiss oauth2 as something only businesses have, because Oauth2 does have its uses where it can convey information a passkey cannot.

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Post by ThunderSizzle »

crawshaw wrote: post #278
ethin wrote: post #269

You have got to make a better website design. I'm a very curious person so was able to figure out what this was but you cannot expect all visitors of your website to be that way. Also, stop charging for SSO/OAuth2 integration. Seriously. There's a huge list of services that stupidly charge for SSO/OAuth integration at https://sso.tax , and this list needs to get smaller, not grow. SSO doesn't cost anything to impleme…

[exe.dev co-founder here] Hi. Re: oauth2, the last product I built, Tailscale, only did auth by oauth2. I chose this because 1. businesses need it anyway, and 2. passwords are terrible. But it was a choice that does not come for free. I dread a page of buttons for third-party services, and the control I give them over my life. I hate that I never know if I should log in with GitHub, or Google, and for a dozen service…

"We" don't have passkeys now. Many functional android devices are not being upgraded to the latest Android versions, and simply will never get true passkey support that isn't locked away inside of Google's vault.

Passwords are much better than the OAuth2 coolaid, and passwords will still be better as long as older devices can't support passkeys due to arbitrary restrictions.

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Post by conductr »

ascii0eks84 wrote: post #232
virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why do we need to click anything? Why wouldn't the relevant information be there in the initial view?

Gatekeeping mechanism. This effectively filters useless traffic and trash contacts.

You’re right that it probably filtered out a lot of traffic. Traffic that may have converted to users if they didn’t meet such a useless landing page

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by conductr »

x-complexity wrote: post #129
deanc wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t go that far but some link to pricing and documentation would be useful. I have absolutely no idea what the offering is here without those pieces of info.

Their pricing page says that it's currently a free trial. https://exe.dev/docs/pricing

That link isn’t really easy to find from the home page is a large part of the gripe here. You have to click About in the footer, remain curious enough to click All Docs on that page (which Pricing isn’t usually a part of “docs”), then all you get is a Pricing paragraph that says “Plan options for individuals, teams, and enterprises.” Not very helpful until you realize the heading text “Pricing” is a plain colored link to this pricing page with more info. The whole UX of this site is garbage and what has fostered so many gripes here.

Re: Exe.dev

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Post by bkyan »

Is it possible to use a ChatGPT subscription with the bundled Codex CLI or do we have to use an API key?
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