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Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by Anamon » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 11:38 AM UTC

left-struck wrote: post #224

lopis wrote: post #156

Google Play is plagued with these ads and they are just scams most of the times. You search for an app and get ads from similarly names apps, apps with visually similar icons, ebooks to use the app you searched, etc. They prey on the less tech savvy to install this spam. There's zero user value in them.

When you think about it, why should you trust any app that tries to trick you when you’re looking for something else? It’s such awful behaviour, I don’t want any part of it, I don’t want to reward it so in any place where I can’t forcibly remove this trash I go out of my way to never click on the ad results even if in the rare case it’s exactly what I searched for.

You are also not the target of these ads. My parents, on the other hand? My mum doesn't have a lot of experience with this stuff, and my dad's eyesight deteriorated. They could definitely fall for lookalike apps in an app store.

This seems like something in need of some laws and regulation. It fosters a kind of phishing-light ecosystem. Apple and Google are laughing to the bank while pretending they're helpless against fraudulent apps. They're not, they're creating a marketplace that makes them viable in the first place.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by fasbiner » Sun, Dec 21, 2025, 1:10 AM UTC

rightbyte wrote: post #181

fasbiner wrote: post #127

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How so? In china, app stores are open to market competition as an eventual consequence of a maoist insurgency. It's fine if you're personally a coward or you just don't think it's worth it. But not only does it work, it is so far, the only thing that has ever been proven to work.

I am not a maoist. I meant that this is reductionist: > definitional difference between a government, a corporation and a mafia that stands up to any objective measure and isn't based entirely on social cues and special pleading Thinking about it. Your post now is also reductionist. Maybe that is your thing?

Using -ist instead of engaging in discussion or presenting any evidence or explanation whatsoever for extradorinaiy claims is in fact a thought-terminating cliche.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A...

If I were to stoop to your level of reasoning and inquiry, I could simply say that you are are a racist and a sexist for disagreeing with me with just as much basis.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by left-struck » Sun, Dec 21, 2025, 5:52 AM UTC

Anamon wrote: post #281

left-struck wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you think about it, why should you trust any app that tries to trick you when you’re looking for something else? It’s such awful behaviour, I don’t want any part of it, I don’t want to reward it so in any place where I can’t forcibly remove this trash I go out of my way to never click on the ad results even if in the rare case it’s exactly what I searched for.

You are also not the target of these ads. My parents, on the other hand? My mum doesn't have a lot of experience with this stuff, and my dad's eyesight deteriorated. They could definitely fall for lookalike apps in an app store. This seems like something in need of some laws and regulation. It fosters a kind of phishing-light ecosystem. Apple and Google are laughing to the bank while pretending they're helpless again…

Yes, I 100% agree

Some people think ad blocking is unethical but I think until there’s more sensible regulation or behaviour it’s your moral duty to block ads, especially on less tech savvy family member’s devices. We’re in a war and the tech companies have been playing dirty for decades.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by port11 » Sun, Dec 21, 2025, 7:18 PM UTC

dewey wrote: post #249

port11 wrote: post #247

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I've no need to defend Apple but I don't see this. I don't see any of those things, ever. What am I doing differently?

Example: Settings / Your Name / iCloud. There I have an add to download "Apple Invites". Another one: https://www.heise.de/en/news/Unwanted-Apple-advertising-Push...

Ah, I see what you mean. But I've rejected all their “Recommendations”, so I don't see any of that anymore. It shows up once, you reject it, and it's gone. Better than ‘no but remind me tomorrow’.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by lopis » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 3:34 PM UTC

left-struck wrote: post #224

lopis wrote: post #156

Google Play is plagued with these ads and they are just scams most of the times. You search for an app and get ads from similarly names apps, apps with visually similar icons, ebooks to use the app you searched, etc. They prey on the less tech savvy to install this spam. There's zero user value in them.

When you think about it, why should you trust any app that tries to trick you when you’re looking for something else? It’s such awful behaviour, I don’t want any part of it, I don’t want to reward it so in any place where I can’t forcibly remove this trash I go out of my way to never click on the ad results even if in the rare case it’s exactly what I searched for.

It's not necessarily shady behavior. Maybe you're just paying ads on your competitor for your legitimate app.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by hagbard_c » Mon, Dec 22, 2025, 7:15 PM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #234

fainpul wrote: post #131

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Fair points about intense marketing and less successful products being forgotten in history. However, I wasn't able to find anything about the first (6 GB) Nomad Jukebox on Wikipedia. The iPod was released in October 2001, I only see mentions of the Jukebox later than that. What does the "no wireless" complaint refer to? I don't see any mention of wireless connections for any of the Nomad Jukeboxes either. Besides th…

> What does the "no wireless" complaint refer to? "Wireless" refers to radio (e.g. FM radio), it's a (quite outdated) Australianism

I suspect he was referring to 802.11b WiFi when he said the thing has no 'wireless' option, not the lack of a radio receiver. 802.11b (and 802.11a) were launched in 1999 and as such predate these high-capacity digital music players. 802.11b was not fast by modern standards (raw data rate up to 11 Mbit/s, practical throughput ~5.9Mbit/s for TCP, ~7.1 Mbit/s UDP) so it would have taken a while to dump a large collection to these devices.