Mozilla gets what, a billion dollars a year from Google to be the default search engine for Firefox? What do they need more money for?
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Is Mozilla trying hard to kill itself?
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#282>> He says he could begin to block ad blockers in Firefox and estimates that’d bring in another $150 million, but he doesn’t want to do that. It feels off-mission. > It may be just me, but I read this as “I don't want to but I'll kill AdBlockers in Firefox for buckerinos ”. Yes, that does seem like a pretty uncharitable interpretation of that quote. I read it as "we won't do it, even though it would bring in $150M US…
It isn't even true that it would bring $150M. This is a calculation accounting on users staying on Firefox.
If they do that, most of the remaining users would flee and goodbye to your millions if you don't have any userbase anymore to justify asking money to anyone.
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There's only two alternatives, safari and chrome-based browsers. Safari isn't cross platform either
> Safari isn't cross platform either WebKit is[1][2]. [1]: https://webkit.org/downloads/ [2]: https://webkit.org/webkit-on-windows/
That second link says it all about how wise it would be to try:
> This guide provides instructions for building WebKit on Windows 8.1
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I'm genuinely curious. What does FireFox mobile have over it's competition? You can't install UBlock Origin on mobile. Like I still use FireFox on mobile, just purely out of habit. I don't really see anything better about it (I am quite inexperienced when it comes to phones).
You can install uBlock Origin on Firefox mobile; it's the only reason I use it.
Oh wow TIL. Thanks, that is amazing.
I just looked it up. 2023 was when it started. I'm surprised Android even allows something like this.
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You wouldn't calculate the expected RoI of killing adblockers if killing adblockers was never considered.
Part of being CEO/running a business is considering all options, but it doesn't mean it will ever move beyond the ROI/risk phase. Ever read one of the risk assessments in a companies public filings? It's the same thing.
Finally, a situation besides “are we the baddies” where a Mitchell and Webb sketch is highly relevant.
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#287It's kinda frustrating that Mozilla's CEO thinks that axing ad-blockers would be financially beneficial for them. Quite the opposite is true (I believe) since a ton of users would leave Firefox for alternatives.
Which alternatives though? On Mac at least, I'm not aware of any viable non-Chromium alternatives.
I use the Duck Duck Go browser for almost everything. I is open source for iOS/Android/macOS platforms, but I think there are parts of their platform that are not. The DDG browser hits all my privacy requirements.
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#288I've been using Firefox since it was called Phoenix. Going against the users like that would make me drop it like a hot potato.
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Firefox has a market share around 3%. Even most technologists stopped using it long ago. Many banks and government websites don’t even support it anymore and loudly tell people to use Chrome instead, especially in developing countries. Nothing can kill Firefox, because it’s already dead for all practical purposes.
> Many banks and government websites don’t even support it anymore and loudly tell people to use Chrome instead, especially in developing countries. I cannot remember the last time I came across one myself.
Reading comments here about problems using Firefox is odd to me as I never run into them. I feel like people are taking about totally different browsers. I don't remember the last time I had page rendering issues or was asked to use a different browser.
Re: Is Mozilla trying hard to kill itself?
#290It's kinda frustrating that Mozilla's CEO thinks that axing ad-blockers would be financially beneficial for them. Quite the opposite is true (I believe) since a ton of users would leave Firefox for alternatives.
Knowing an option, doesn't mean it's his goal. It's probably just a regular offer from Google, they always decline.