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Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I feel like I'm missing the "Jew hate fest." Genuinely I don't see it here, except maybe one comment saying that Israel does not extradite criminals. . . Which is pretty neutral in tone to be honest. Where are you seeing the hate?

There is 1 (one) comment that is definitely very dodgy [0]. Saying 1 comment out of 250+ is a "fest" however, is of course the tried and true tactic of "anything remotely negative of anything connected to the country or any of its citizens must be racist".

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46286734

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I mean Musk almost singlehandedly has killed hundreds of thousands of kids worldwide in 2025 alone by destroying USAID medicine and basic nutrition distribution, while it literally rots in warehouses now

If we are going to have cancer stories and gun violence stories daily in the news, shouldn't the kids dying be a daily coverage?

Credit to BBC who every few weeks does show the kids dying in the hospital but US news does not mention it anymore since the summer

Still dying. More in 2026. Even more in 2027. Even more in 2028.

Even if USAID is restored in 2029 it will take awhile to rebuild and all those dead kids aren't coming back ever.

Oh and they didn't just quietly die. They suffered for weeks, months and died

Musk did that. But yeah keep using X and buying his cars

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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No, but the pattern of criminals of Jewish background fleeing to Israel for protection after commiting a crime, is too often to ignore. Same thing happened in my post communist country and the neighboring country too. Perp stole tens of millons through a banking scam in the 90s, then fled to Israel because he was Jewish and claimed persecution. At which point should the pattern be acknowledged?

And did you ask Israel for extradition? What his name was? And is this pattern actually unique to Israel or would you find other examples of people escaping to where the law can't reach them? If Israel wanted to convict a dual citizen who fled to your country, what is the required process?

No, the leaders of my country didn't try any of that. You were the first person to think about those things. I'll pass on your suggestions and hopefully everything gets resolved.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I always donate to the random homeless people stopping me on the street. Doesn't really matter to me what they do with it, whatever keeps them warm.

Unfortunately in Europe these can also be scams, there are some people who will dress up homeless but are actually just begging for profit. They're easy to recognize, because they're very forceful in their begging, relying more on intimidation than compassion. There really is no level people won't sink to for some money.

> there are some people who will dress up homeless but are actually just begging for profit.

This always reminds me of the Sherlock Holmes short story - The man with the twisted lip

> They're easy to recognize, because they're very forceful in their begging, relying more on intimidation than compassion.

This is very common in India. These so called beggars harass and target people at their weakest and happiest moments like at funerals or birth of a child, wedding or housewarming parties. I've heard of these people earning enough to own houses in multiple cities.

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It’s so predictable by this point

Do you believe all countries should automatically extradiate every person any other country demands? Or that there should be a limit on such process?

Israel is a special case.

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What is the definition of right and wrong if NOT a moral one?

Indeed! However, law is not a definition of moral right and wrong; rather, it is a spatiotemporally varying definition of societal and judicial rights, permissions and restrictions of conduct which are usually grounded in the locally prevailing morals. Law in a democratic society is a manifestation of so-called social contracts considered binding for members of that society. However, law in a non-democratic society c…

It’s subjective. It’s always subjective. A person can convince themselves they’re right to conduct all sorts of heinous acts if they simply alter their perspective enough.

Morals are fundamental to the process.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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With 2 month long plus waits for basic scans in countries like Canada

Any system needs a resource allocation algorithm. In capitalism it is easy and transparent: price, with the side effect of aligning society interests with those of the selfish individual. Of course the strange and heavily regulated US health-care system is obviously far far away from a free market. In socialism it's much more random: black markets, lists, lotteries, friends and network of connections. The side effect…

When I'm unconscious in an ambulance, I'm definitely in a position to appreciate all that price transparency the free market has provided, so I can rationally weigh up all my options calmly and objectively while my organs are shutting down.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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It's likely caused by the very same thing that causes human beings to knowingly and willingly steal money from children that need that money to live.

Some people seem to exist in a bubble where they believe that nothing bad will ever happen to them or their loved ones, so paying to improve society has no benefit to themselves.

But charitable causes perpetuate the problems by creating an industry around them rather than trying to find solutions for them. You can’t trust industry to solve civil problems like healthcare or housing, since they shouldn’t be problems in the first place. Its like trying to trust the free market to keep people from raping and killing each other—people will rape and kill with or without the market! Some level of coercion is necessary that free market principles cannot employ.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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"They were always looking for beautiful children with white skin." But most of the children in the video appear to be non-white. So they're not even good at anti-affirmative-action?

Possibly it means white by the standards of the culture and language the statement was made in.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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And did you ask Israel for extradition? What his name was? And is this pattern actually unique to Israel or would you find other examples of people escaping to where the law can't reach them? If Israel wanted to convict a dual citizen who fled to your country, what is the required process?

No, the leaders of my country didn't try any of that. You were the first person to think about those things. I'll pass on your suggestions and hopefully everything gets resolved.

Instead of being sarcastic you could be good faith and provide further information and explore what happened and explain what do you think Israel should do differently?
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