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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by rkomorn »

jwr wrote: post #126

As a reminder if you own an LG TV, turn off the sneakily named "Live Plus" thing. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV. You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF. Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates. T…

Saw this post this morning before getting on a plane and saved the tab open so I'd do it first thing when I got home.

Done.

Thanks for the tip. :)

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Post by nitwit005 »

brokenmachine wrote: post #91

Surely if Copilot was so useful and great, it wouldn't be free and they wouldn't be trying to force it down unwilling people's throats at every opportunity. I'm beginning to think this AI stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be...

I'm not confident they have any sensible vision beyond "meet the KPI for Copilot usage".

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Post by jojobas »

hapticmonkey wrote: post #143
jojobas wrote: post #45

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So far nothing prevents you from spending $100 to set up LibreElec on an RPi and leave the TV offline and dumb.

Does that work with the DRM from streaming apps, though? Can you get 4K and atmos with Netflix or Disney+ with that hardware? And an easy remote and UI?

Elementum to the rescue, all atmos/4k you can find.

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Post by saltcured »

goku12 wrote: post #90
hyperadvanced wrote: post #40

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You can get a 10 or 20 or 30 year old TV. They still work.

I see that we have already entered the post-apocalyptic scavenging stage?

I turns out hardly anybody pays enough attention to notice an apocalypse

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Post by mikkupikku »

BizarroLand wrote: post #269
mikkupikku wrote: post #258

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How interesting! These great minds you speak of, are they objectively great, or only subjectively? If they are only subjectively great, then why should a lazy appeal to them sway me? And if they are objectively great minds, then how does that not acknowledge my premise? I'm teasing you, I do acknowledged that there are great minds, past and present, who disagree with me. And I trust you can acknowledge the same, ther…

Using flowery language does not automatically make you correct, and even if on the hard facts you are correct, it comes across as condescending and arrogant. What you're saying, "There are shows on TV worth watching and the art form is still evolving, and one person not liking it doesn't mean that it is bad" would have come across much more cleanly if you had stated it plainly.

> What you're saying, "There are shows on TV worth watching and the art form is still evolving, and one person not liking it doesn't mean that it is bad"

That's not even remotely what I'm saying!

I would instead say that media is only "evolving" insofar as it is being optimized by media corporations for reliable fiscal return. No risks allowed, everything needs to be cookie cutter, no risks, barely any new IPs even, the industry just wants to get committees of nepo hire "writers" to remix shit they can be reasonably confident will find reliable audiences, and that means pandering to viewers instead of challenging them. Every decision gets run through test audiences, opinion polls, and legions of executives and their consultants. Art cannot be created in such an industry environment. All they can make is base slop.

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Post by mikkupikku »

scld wrote: post #276
mikkupikku wrote: post #258

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How interesting! These great minds you speak of, are they objectively great, or only subjectively? If they are only subjectively great, then why should a lazy appeal to them sway me? And if they are objectively great minds, then how does that not acknowledge my premise? I'm teasing you, I do acknowledged that there are great minds, past and present, who disagree with me. And I trust you can acknowledge the same, ther…

That I acknowledge there are great minds on both sides of the debate means that I wouldn't treat it as a hard fact when talking about it in an online forum, which was the explicit point of my response.

If you can recognize the greatness of somebody you disagree with, then you should also be able to recognize merit in media you don't personally like. And if merit can be thus decoupled from personal opinion, that affirms my point that objective merit really does exist.

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Post by tracker1 »

p_j_w wrote: post #192
Y-bar wrote: post #162

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I see many people liking their shield, and with good reason it seems, but is it a worthy ecosystem to buy in to when it has not seen a new hardware revision since 2019?

What benefits would a hardware upgrade bring the end user? Not releasing a new model every year sounds like a perfectly good thing to me as long as they keep updating the software without introducing performance problems. My biggest gripe with the Shield is the newest one has a remote that I really don’t like. Luckily it can be replaced with a third party remote!

Same, one of mine is from the initial models, and still working and receiving updates... it doesn't have the 4k upscaling of the newer models, but I've been happy and have several in my house.

About half my watching is YouTube on a paid account, the other half via Kodi and the high seas. My SO uses the regular apps for Netflix, Amazon and HBO currently. Having support for hacker-friendly features as well as blessed apps with 4k support has been pretty great.

As another post mentioned, the remote (current and previous) have been less than stellar... I've been using the one linked below[1], which works pretty well, though uses a USB dongle. FWIW, can also pair a bluetooth headset if you want the big screen experience, but don't want to blow out the house with audio sometimes.

1. https://amazon.com/dp/B07RFN8Z47

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Post by tracker1 »

walthamstow wrote: post #177
mr_mitm wrote: post #158

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What do you think of Nvidia Shield? I haven't tried it, but I think it should also belong to 2). It's clearly much more expensive than a FireTV, but as you say it shouldn't be subsidized by ads. As an Android device it should be more open than an Apple TV. While I recognize the near flawless UI and high hardware quality of most Apple devices, I disagree with their "golden cage" or walled garden approach.

I've had the same Shield for about 8 years and it's still going strong, has all the hardware decoding I need

Even on the OG hardware, I'm able to use 4K in h.265 or AV1 without issue, it does get hot though.

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Post by tracker1 »

russdill wrote: post #145
kburman wrote: post #127

My rule for modern TVs: 1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor. 2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features. 3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku. The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only…

OG Chromecast is specifically being phased out because it doesn't offer the same level of control as the current crop of "smart" TVs/devices.

I'm still disappointed they killed the Chromecast Audio... have one uptairs I use regularly. Would have bought a couple extra had I known.

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Post by tracker1 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #194
alias_neo wrote: post #187

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Maybe this is what I need to do. I disconnected our living room LG TV from the internet and got a Fire Stick 4K Max, but I hate it; 90% of the screen is advert, and you get a tiny sliver for the 5 apps it lets you see, and you have to go digging for the rest, not to mention the home-screen advertising isn't always appropriate for young children. I hadn't considered Apple TV because I've never been an Apple user, but…

Yes. The only other one I'd seriously consider is the nVidia Shield (Pro?). But the risk with that is that it's decade old hardware with no updates in sight. It's more for the "My Plex/Jellyfin server has all the movies and TV shows ever" -crowd :) Meanwhile my 1st gen 4k AppleTV (6-ish years old?) is chugging away perfectly and runs every single 3rd party streaming platform I need - even the local ones. As a market…

It's still seeing software updates and can play h.265 and AV1 content in 4K without issue. The latest model is 2019 though... that said works great... latest software update was just a couple weeks ago.

Also, you can swap the Android TV launcher relatively easily.

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