Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

Post by Cyph0n » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 8:55 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #273

Cyph0n wrote: post #260

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Doctors don't use pagers anymore, just like tech on calls used to and don't anymore. Mobile phones are far superior for that, and are very available anywhere in the world, and especially to doctors Regarding whether that's brilliant, that is not my wording, but generally it was quite mild compared to the methods of Hezbollah and was highly successful in ending a war with very little bloodshed. The other alternative w…

Post by flyinglizard » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 8:56 PM UTC

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jmyeet wrote: post #195

There are a few different angles to this. 1. If any other state had done this, we'd be correctly calling this a terrorist attack and there wouldn't be any question about it; and 2. Palantir was a partner in developing several AI systems used for targeting missile strikes in Gaza. Collectively these tend to be called Lavender [1][2]. Another of these systems is called "Where's Daddy". What does it do? It targets alleg…

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Post by amarcheschi » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

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Again, so what? You aren't off the hook because of the actions of your enemies. It was obvious these would be going off around civilians, in homes and public spaces, including hospitals, and they chose to go through with the attack knowing this. That the civilians who would be around them would have no particular reason to fear or suspect this attack, because the vector was a common daily object . It was an attack on…

We literally have videos of these going off in public spaces. The explosions were weak enough that people literally inches away were unharmed. The only way to be seriously injured is to be holding it in your hands or against your body. You cannot seriously call it an attack "on civilians" - you especially cannot say that it's in pursuit of a non-military goal when it kicked off a literal military operation by crippli…

Post by kyboren » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 8:59 PM UTC

ignoramous wrote: post #256

kyboren wrote: post #87

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I think this was a brilliant operation and perfectly lawful. I also think that if Lebanon (not Hezbollah) were in a state of war with Israel, yes, that would (depending on proportionality and target discrimination) be perfectly legal, too.

> perfectly lawful Are you a lawyer / expert in conflicts? If not, curious how you arrived at this conclusion.

  - highly discriminatory

    - only Hezbollah commanders received these devices

    - it's an essential piece of military C2 gear so you'd expect they would keep possession of them at all times

    - the explosive was small enough to mitigate any risk to bystanders

  - targeted at combatants

  - likely to achieve (and in fact did achieve) military effects at least proportional to any collateral damage

Post by alephnerd » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 8:59 PM UTC

zipy124 wrote: post #275

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Most likely as a data lakehouse, but the Palantir angle is most likely overstated - Palantir has a tiny presence in Israel, and has had a history of overstating it's intel and defense credentials (eg. A three letter agency that churned Palantir was named for years after before they stopped calling them out). That said, I have heard some positive feedback about Palantir's data integration capabilities - most other ven…

Their association with defense comes from the fact they got their start in industry thanks to in-q-tel which literally has the purpose of funding technology for the CIA and intelligence agencies. So it would not be surprising if they were heavily intertwined in that world.