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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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" I was approached by a person who runs a contracting “company,” hiring video game testers to work at various game companies."

... which is where the story starts to go bad. Videogame testing is a notoriously terrible space with incredibly unacceptable behaviors (see http://trenchescomic.com/tales for a selection of them). Which is not something I note to imply that our blogger should have known better; it's something I want to hilite to raise consciousness about it.

I'm glad this author is taking action and hope he gets all the support he can from his communities (including this one). This stuff is poisonous, unacceptable, and right under the noses of a lot of tech companies. It needs to stop.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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>I cannot afford to take white people’s shit anymore. That’s been my mantra this year, and I’m still on it, even if that means getting the law involved. From the comment above (and several other parts of his article) he certainly appears to be just as racist as the people he's trying to demonize. Not to mention there's a crazy amount of self entitlement going on. >I had a whole month of potential creative and communi…

It's not illegal for the author to be racist. It's rather illegal for an employer to be racist in their workplace. Yes, I'd rather there were a better whistleblower than this guy. You seldom get things to align perfectly.

Imagine you hear a story about a guy whose house gets burned to the ground. All of his possessions are destroyed. My thought is that you'd naturally feel sympathy for the victim.

Now say you found out the victim was himself a serial arsonist who had burned down other houses. Do you still feel as bad for him?

In my opinion there is no difference between that story and this one. A racist man is angry that another racist man made racist comments toward him.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Decoder ring for nerds who are unable to read past words like "neoliberal colonizer" without racing to the nearest TEXTAREA: * A black coworker is singled out by another (non-black) coworker with "watch out for that guy, he’s trouble, he talks a lot of shit" * Referring to a latino coworker, that same coworker suggests jokes: "Like ‘you’re a mexican whore’ or like ‘your mother’s a Mexican whore?" * The black coworker…

If anything, he was dressed closer to NWA or Public Enemy. Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with his lyrical abilities.

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Re: Racism at a gaming company

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post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yo, based on the copious number of comments you've made addressing this I know you're super concerned about that single anecdote from within a larger context, but she didn't get her head bitten off, unless for some weird reason you're reading him as actually saying "Dumbwhite" out loud at her, despite it not being in quotes.

She just got her head bitten off on the public Internet . Some HR dude is probably looking for her right now.

I think you're seriously overestimating the amount of liquid in Kixeye's care cup for this guy's feelings.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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I'm sadly not in the least bit surprised by the comments here, actually accusing the author of being the racist, professional victim, all of that horse-shit. I am a white man, but the author's points really hit home for me, not because I've myself been treated this way, but because I have had to tolerate conduct like this for pretty much my entire life, just not directed at me. I can't tell you the number of times I'…

I agree with what you have said, and yes, anyone speaking truth about institutional racism and white privilege gets downvoted. Since discussion of the reality is not permitted, I find it helpful to keep for my personal records names and company affiliations of people defending white privilege.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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As people from various backgrounds get the opportunity to mingle, some obviously have a hard time with how to handle these encounters. They harbour an uneasiness when faced with the differences based on some false assumptions that they've made, maybe due to misinformation or (often inaccurate) cultural stereotypes. e.g. when a black person meets a white person, that black person is particularly concerned if the white person is racist. So they decide to bring forth what they perceive to be the elephant in the room, by preemptively expressing that they themselves are very open to cultural differences. Now, the way this is done takes some interesting forms, from the more subtle:

I have a friend from [insert some exotic country here]. I love [insert some singer from some minority group here]

To the more awkward:

What's up bro! [insert awkward racial remark of your liking here]

It comes to no surprise that some would even choose to compensate by exhibiting a bold racist behaviour that, they think, should be received with some reverse psychology acrobatics: I'm preemptively making racist jokes, because I want to show you that I'm not actually racist and rather open. (I'm also kinda covering my ass now, in case I do happen to trip over my tongue later and say something really out of place).

Sadly, an increasing amount of people who behave like this also think that it's ok and that racism is now in the eye of the beholder. So they will tell their jokes to Kevin, who they've just barely met and if Kevin takes offence, then it's Kevin who's too sensitive about that kind of humour. So they will apologize by saying something like relax bro, I didn't mean it in a racist way. I have many black friends. Racism doesn't exist anymore. Chill, have a sense of humour. They never stop to wonder, did Kevin, who is from Ghana, connect with their African American stereotyped jokes? Do his black friends actually even call him "bro"? Does he or the people he associates with actually use the n word?

Do they actually acknowledge that this behaviour isn't acceptable? The way they reason is, I'm not racist, so I can just keep calling my black friends n, as long as I don't mean it in a negative way. So it's not surprising that later they'll try the exact same jokes on Robert, thinking he might be of the "more open minded inclination".

My tip when it comes to befriend minorities (this is going to be a let down): They're just people, get to know them like you would anybody else. Don't attempt any "hacks", don't play games, don't test them thinking that the outcome should be different from any other human being. Take the time to know the person, don't assume that you've figured them out based on their gender, orientation or physical appearance.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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> Is there an explanation for the events in the story that aren't clear examples of oppression? I can't find one. Really? How about some guys talking BS and making irreverent jokes? You keep using this word "oppression". I don't think it means what you think it means.

I think the word "oppression" perfectly applies to multiple unwelcome instances of strong verbal abuse coming from someone in a privileged class directed at someone in a non-privileged class. If there's a better word, I haven't found it yet. Even if we take the most charitable interpretation possible, that this wasn't anything more than "talking BS" and "irreverent jokes" and that the person making jokes was just clu…

>I think the word "oppression" perfectly applies to multiple unwelcome instances of strong verbal abuse coming from someone in a privileged class directed at someone in a non-privileged class. If there's a better word, I haven't found it yet.

Are white people supposed to be privileged in a company and black people non-privileged? Was he denied changes to get a promotion, or had he to make do with less wage? What was his "under-privileged" status?

If two white guys, say an Irish and a Southern, exchange Irish and Redneck jokes at one another, does that count as "verbal abuse" too? Or is it only verbal abuse when they turn and address similar stuff to a black co-worker?

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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post #165

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Brilliant analysis. I am one of the readers who had deep concern for the truthfulness of these observations. If they are true, then he got screwed, royally, and should sue. Except for the pendant comment. That's just a case of taking yourself too seriously. Yet another nail in the coffin of his credibility.

The things you think sap his credibility add to his credibility for me; if he was making things up, it would have been easy for him to leave his own politics and sensitivities out of the post to make it more painful for his ex-employer. To me, it reads like he's just venting to his peers. We're the ones making a big deal out of it.

Yeah, just as long as that sort of shit isn't in his official complaint, it's not really an issue that he's peeved about it. But that's the sort of thing that a lawyer would seize upon to try and demonstrate that someone has a distorted perspective.

If I were his editor, I'd tell him to separate the, "Dumb white hipsters being ignorant", stuff from the, "Creating a hostile working environment", part of his story. As it is, it's mixed in and undermines the seriousness of the legitimately awful treatment he was subjected to.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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I guess I'm very naive, because I found this shocking. I hear about racism, but I guess I often think that things must be blown out of proportion. I mean, how can there still be such racist people out there? What kind of mental malfunction allows that kind of thinking?

This blog post has been a very sad reality check for me.

Re: Racism at a gaming company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apart from the comment about the pendant, any one of the comments listed above would be a firing offense here. You know, it occurs to me that it's kinda sad that "firing offense" is the highest degree of punishment we have available to inflict. It's our proxy for social exile, but it's not actually social exile. That doesn't seem enough, but jailing and fining don't seem to fit either.

This is something I find interesting. AFAIK in the US because of free speech nobody can really do anything in law regarding racism. In the UK in the last few years there have been several high profile cases of racial abuse on Twitter and the racists have gotten jail time (one example at the bottom of the article linked below). Protecting free speech is important. However most people probably agree there should be a l…

> In the UK in the last few years there have been several high profile cases of racial abuse on Twitter and the racists have gotten jail time (one example at the bottom of the article linked below).

This is one of the advantages of having a written constitution. You can't just do things on a whim that violate basic principles of the country, since they're clearly codified in writing.

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