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Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by samdoesnothing »

dylan604 wrote: post #107
samdoesnothing wrote: post #103

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I think they're asking why there's such a large population of people willing to commit crimes and then get into high speed chases.

The cause of the behavior (as phrased when asked) is not wanting to go to jail. Asking why people are in situations where they are committing crimes that could land them in jail is a totally different question. Typically, poverty. Also common, addiction.

Are you suggesting criminals in other cities and countries do want to go to jail? Like, the reason there aren't high speed chases in Amsterdam is because Amsterdesian criminals actually enjoy life in the clink?

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Post by victorbjorklund »

CPLX wrote: post #277
Avshalom wrote: post #253

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The thing is: there shouldn't be. Car chases cause far more damage (including injury and deaths of bystanders) than the crimes that precede them do and "air support" is not a defense against that in any way.

Genuine question. What do you think the alternative is? Let's say for argument's sake, that it was relatively well known that you could just drive away rapidly from a police encounter and successfully escape. Do you think that would affect the number of people who made that decision to do that? I can see both sides of this, but I'm curious what yours is.

That is the case in many countries and as far as I know many states in US (for non-violent crime). Doesn’t result in a lot of people trying it because most people understand if the police knows who you are it won’t help to drive away and the people who are dumb/high/psychotic to not understand this they will do it regardless of wether the cops chase or not.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by victorbjorklund »

ACCount37 wrote: post #248
jeltz wrote: post #241

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Not sure why car chases are necessary to solve this problem. Just arrest these people in their homes. Those videos are enough evidence for arrest and conviction.

Who do you arrest? An abandoned car?

I’m 90% of the cases the police knows who the driver is.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by victorbjorklund »

themafia wrote: post #170
BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #55

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Then why do you have so many car chases? That seems like an odd problem. There must be a reason.

Population density. In other countries they have a lot of motorcycle chases, and a lot more motorcycle based crime, but it's a crime of opportunity, which is created by highly dense and interwoven urban cores.

The US is less densely populated than most European countries. It is in fact the 180th most densely populated country in the world.

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Post by nandomrumber »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #155
Aurornis wrote: post #137

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Unfortunately, yes. Dropping a magnet onto a car and pulling it off, especially if not recently cleaned, will damage the paint to some degree. Maybe not enough for an average person to notice, but you really shouldn’t do this to other people’s cars. Some people will get snide about anyone who cares about their car’s paint, but as someone who once bought a car I had to save a long time for and spent a lot of time with…

Also, the paint on cars isn't just cosmetic. It's what keeps the metal from getting wet and then rusting.

Aren’t all modern cars galvanised?

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Post by FireBeyond »

lukeschlather wrote: post #244
themafia wrote: post #200

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A huge chunk of that is national parks and deserts. It's not all inhabited. Only about 25% is classified as urban with the overwhelming majority of that being concentrated in Los Angeles and it's surrounding cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles#Urban_area... This isn't a size measuring contest. I think Europeans forget how _young_ America is. That's the only unique part of this country. Give us a…

No it was a population density measuring contest and you were trying to argue that greater LA was more dense than greater Berlin, without defining greater Berlin in a rigorous way. The size of Germany relative to greater LA was brought up to attempt to put the population densities in perspective.

Measuring methods are also very different. I've had this argument before here.

Looking at the population of greater Melbourne has you looking at suburbs like Werribee, Frankston, Boronia, etc., which everyone would consider as a part of Melbourne (suburbs, outer, but very much a part of the core).

On the flip side, the "Seattle Metropolitan Area" consists of:

Mt Rainier. Bainbridge Island. Glacier Peak in Mt Baker Snoqualmie National Forest. Mt Vernon. Olympia. North Bend.

No Western Washingtonian is calling any of those locations "a suburb of Seattle".

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

nandomrumber wrote: post #285
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #155

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Also, the paint on cars isn't just cosmetic. It's what keeps the metal from getting wet and then rusting.

Aren’t all modern cars galvanised?

The unpainted parts.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by mike_d »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #247
free_bip wrote: post #181

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Do you really need 17 helicopters and 90 employees for the occasional car chase? This feels wildly over the top. They could do that just fine with one third the resources.

On top of that, police car chases are wildly harmful and usually started from things like minor traffic violations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVFXUkFx5Y8

Helicopters avoid car chases by allowing them to follow the car until it gets to a destination or runs out of gas.

Even if they "usually" start from a minor traffic violation (which they do not), the majority of individuals who run have outstanding felony warrants or are engaged in committing another crime.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by vee-kay »

unethical_ban wrote: post #280
vee-kay wrote: post #260

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Every message on social media is a throwaway, unless if it has some tangible memorable impact on life.

I disagree. Accounts with a post history, sleep consistency and decency in their content and particularly older pre AI accounts can at least be trusted as human and well meaning.

I humbly disagree. Humans have inherent bias, and politics and ideologies skew their behavior, even if they themselves mistakenly think it is well intentioned when it really is not.

Social media and news media, in general, are controlled and dominated by Leftists. And that inherent bias and prejudiced ideology is very evident on social media posts, news articles and Wiki articles, especially about my country and culture. And it's because humans are being taught (and some of them are taught or indoctrinated to perpetuate) skewed and ideology driven versions of history and (mis)information for centuries.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by unethical_ban »

vee-kay wrote: post #289
unethical_ban wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Accounts with a post history, sleep consistency and decency in their content and particularly older pre AI accounts can at least be trusted as human and well meaning.

I humbly disagree. Humans have inherent bias, and politics and ideologies skew their behavior, even if they themselves mistakenly think it is well intentioned when it really is not. Social media and news media, in general, are controlled and dominated by Leftists. And that inherent bias and prejudiced ideology is very evident on social media posts, news articles and Wiki articles, especially about my country and cult…

We are talking about different things.

I am discussing the legitimacy of content from accounts that are new, and/or post low-effort contrarian content which is a signature form of trolling. I'm also talking about the ease of script kiddies all the way up to nations using AI to more intelligently troll as bots with endless questions and logical fallacies when talking about current events.

In other words, literally the difference between bots/trolls and people looking for real dialogue.

You seem to be concerned with left-wing bias in forums.

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