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Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if in a year or two we start seeing bans on AI because of the tactics of these corporations. And I mean full-on blunt instrument legal bans on any use or creation of the things. Nobody will care about the nuances of AI, and that the AIs nobody talk about is actually doing some neat things. The very things these corporations are doing with AI is, I suspect, ultimately going to doom it…

Way too many people out there like my boss completely hooked on letting LLMs write all their emails (and letting all us scratch our heads trying to figure out what they mean)

That's so gross. Like that tells me everything about your boss. Lol. But that's what I mean. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing calls for the LLMs of today to be banned. AI (and I mean the other types of AI) has done some great things in the sciences/medicine and whatnot. But people will still want them banned because these companies have made LLM == AI. And it won't matter that there are other kinds of AI.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

"If I want AI I'll actively seek it out and use it - otherwise, jog on." If I want MS Windows I'll actively seek it out and use it - otherwise, jog on If this is not a statement you can make, then Redmond gets to decide what you use, not you

I have not used MS Windows on own computers since early 2000s

I did not switch from MS Windows to Linux nor MacOS

I switched to NetBSD which I had originally used on the VAX before Linux existed

I have owned Macs and iPhones. But Apple became a lost cause many years ago

Today I use both Linux and NetBSD

I prefer compiling the software I use myself. I am not a fan of "binary packages"

When I use the term "you" in an HN comment I am not referring to myself

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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I have one device in my house on Alexa called "under cabinet lights", I asked Alexa to "turn on the cabinet lights" she said "several things share the name cabinet lights, which one do you mean?" (As if there's enough information there to answer the question) I told her "all of them" thinking maybe the lights got duplicated or something. She turned on every smart home light in the house. . That isn't your ideal world…

Does it do the right thing if you ask if to turn on the under cabinet lights?

No, it turns on my office ceiling fan

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> The fact that they can abuse even their enterprise customers and still retain them is what blows my mind. The large org dependency on 365 and microsoft is a serious info-security and national security risk. 0 interest in improving because they know they won't ever see competition

> they won't ever see competition Not that Google is any better, but I really want Google to put more effort into Workspace/GSuite and bring it up on par with M365 and all it includes, at least make Microsoft sweat a little bit that one day there might be a possibility for a competing product that can lure enterprises away. Workspace needs better DLP controls, and more of the enterprise-y things that MS wins at, and…

It doesn't matter if Googles office suite was better, everybody still would go Microsoft. There really isn't anything all that special about Microsoft Office to begin with.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

I just got a "try gemini in google chrome" pop up and the only option was to try or "remind me later".

Even just the remind me later option gives me such a horrible vibe. F off Google and respect my choice.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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He just says what he needs to say in order to accomplish his company's goals: selling lots of AI.

That makes him as trustworthy as a used car salesman.

I mean I think there's a niche where AI is useful but it's not for all the things they're trying to push it for.

It's the metaverse and blockchain hypes all over again. Always trying to cram it into situations where it adds no value and even detracts. Instead of focusing on the ones where it really does.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> sneaking its way into where it's not wanted This. After a generation of social media sneaking its surveillance, manipulation, and noisy ads into our home, work and mobile lives, it is very obvious that having something "smart" shoved into tools where it wasn't asked for isn't some noble attempt at improving lives. Users are tired of being continually and transparently abused. All Microsoft would have to do to shock…

> All Microsoft would have to do to shock the world and get months of good press is announce they were never going to opt anybody into anything by default any more. At this point that would be considered astonishing. One can dream. I manage M365 where I work, and MS never opting tenants into anything by default again would save me many hours of work on a seemingly weekly basis now. The fact that they can abuse even t…

I manage M365 too (well part of it because we're a big company). And yes Microsoft really screwed us over when they suddenly offered "free promotional access" of SharePoint Copilot to our users.

We hadn't certified this and weren't planning to offer it any time soon but they just switched it on and included a setting to turn off off again. But by the time we did users had already used it and were complaining.

Working with Microsoft is tedious. They're always trying to sell stuff and undermine you. I consider them more of an adversary than a trusted vendor/partner.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. It's not that people are unimpressed with AI - they're just tired of constantly being bombarded with it, and it sneaking its way into where it's not wanted. "Generate any image you want!" "Analyse this thing with AI!" gets pretty tiring. If I want AI I'll actively…

Isn’t it just that people are unimpressed with Microsoft Copilot? I’ve always felt that other models work quite well. If the implementation on their side has issues, they shouldn’t blame users for disliking it.

Yes copilot is a lot dumber than chatgpt which is really curious because it's basically a wrapper around... Chatgpt....

I guess they just put really tight limits on compute per request which hurts its performance.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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> people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video > super smart were there any US presidents named Bob? No U.S. president has ever gone by “Bob” as a first name or nickname. A few presidents had “Robert” in their full name, but none were commonly known as Bob: James Abram Garfield — middle name Abram, not Robert James Earl Carter Jr. (Jimmy Carter)…

I just asked this myself: "No. There has never been a U.S. President whose first name was “Bob.” A few presidents had names that could be shortened to Bob—most commonly Robert—but no U.S. President has had the first name Robert, either. (There have been presidents with middle name Robert, such as James Earl “Jimmy” Carter Jr., but that’s different.) So: no Presidents named Bob, and none named Robert as their first na…

lol ya, the Jimmy Carter thread is amazing, these quotes sound like something out of a standup bit

> There have been presidents with middle name Robert, such as James Earl “Jimmy” Carter Jr., but that’s different.

> James Robert “Jimmy” Carter does not have Robert as a middle name, for clarity — his middle name is Earl

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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Star Trek computer remains the ultimate ideal. Basically sums up why i don't use any kind of voice assistant still. Until the computer can DO exactly and precisely what i asked -- not what it's faulty recognition model thinks i asked -- there's zero point to trying to talk to it

I have one device in my house on Alexa called "under cabinet lights", I asked Alexa to "turn on the cabinet lights" she said "several things share the name cabinet lights, which one do you mean?" (As if there's enough information there to answer the question) I told her "all of them" thinking maybe the lights got duplicated or something. She turned on every smart home light in the house. . That isn't your ideal world…

Not sure how that works with Alexa but can't you customize names of bulbs, rooms so you could call for light at specific place?
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