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Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

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Post by devwastaken » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 4:28 AM UTC

retrochameleon wrote: post #218

devwastaken wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SteamOS is locked down. it is not a community driven project. You cannot update if you modify the rootfs. Valve created a true console, it is not a PC.

Immutable =/= locked down

Its the same thing to the user. go ahead and ask someone to install some arch packages.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

#282

Post by devwastaken » Sun, Nov 23, 2025, 4:30 AM UTC

leshenka wrote: post #215

devwastaken wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SteamOS is locked down. it is not a community driven project. You cannot update if you modify the rootfs. Valve created a true console, it is not a PC.

Sorry that’s absolutely not the case. They’ve created “locked down” experience so that is serviceable and harder to break but you’re absolutely free to install arch, ubuntu, whatever and put Steam on top of it. You can install Windows even. You don’t have to choose “all or nothing”. You are not being locked in an ecosystem like you do with the consoles Steam Machine aims to compete with.

It is locked down in exactly the same way you can go through a bunch of steps to unlock any other device. SteamOS is locked by default. you must run a series of scripts found on various forums to unlock it.

Windows is broken on steamdeck. the only OS that works properly is SteamOS for obvious reasons.

Re: I don’t need a Steam Machine

#283

Post by retrochameleon » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 3:39 PM UTC

devwastaken wrote: post #281

retrochameleon wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immutable =/= locked down

Its the same thing to the user. go ahead and ask someone to install some arch packages.

If the user can't figure it out (RTFM) and handle it, they probably shouldn't. Lest they break their own system and then blame valve either way.