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Australia has so much solar that it's offering everyone free electricity

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Post by breve »

maxglute wrote: post #261
GeoAtreides wrote: post #241

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i have a question for dang. If I was to post a comment that frames the armenian or rohingya genocide, or indeed any genocide, in a good light, would my comment be flagged? What exactly is HN policy on moderating genocide-washing propaganda? asking for a chinese friend

It's 2025. US/Pompeo's fake genocide propaganda campaign failed. There's no need to genocide wash because you know, there was never genocide to begin with. Even astroturfed wikipedia had to concede "Genocide of Uyghurs" down to "Persecution". Nvm plurarity of UN opinion labels PRC actions as counter terrorism / anti extremism programs. If HN is required to align with US foreign policy positions / be US gov mouthpiece…

Sure. Everything in Xinjiang is doubleplusgood:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

https://xjdp.aspi.org.au/explainers/sterilizations-and-manda...

https://www.vox.com/2020/7/28/21333345/uighurs-china-internm...

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-bir...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-23/china-uyghur-policies...

https://www.rferl.org/a/china-uyghur-uzbek-xinjiang-muslim/3...

Re: Australia has so much solar that it's offering everyone free electricity

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

thedays wrote: post #253
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #79

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Australia will give you a 30% discount on that purchase, they have a fund of 2.3 Billion Australian dollars available for this purpose called the Cheaper Home Batteries program.

The 30% battery discount in Australia is only available to households that also have solar systems. https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/programs/cheaper-home-batte...

You are correct.

I thought I'd read that they planned to expand the scheme to non solar homes to fit in with the ethos of the new "benefits of solar for people without solar" messaging of the proposal under discussion here.

But I checked my supposed source and it was just someone suggesting that it would be consistent and useful if they did make that change.

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Post by mschuster91 »

floam wrote: post #234
mschuster91 wrote: post #214

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> Not literally no signal/service, right? Come to Munich, go into any of the large old buildings, the central stairwells usually are phone dead zones. Truly dead. Or try to go and hike in the Alps. Shit service, but as soon as you walk into Austrian territory, you'll suddenly have service. Or try taking a train from Munich to, say, Landshut. You'll lose signal about 5 minutes after the train passes through the outski…

I stand corrected. I didn’t realize you could be a MIMBY for cell towers and also not currently have service . Any organized resistance I’ve witnessed myself in the US has been something like an HOA saying no not tucked right here where our home values could take a hit or a view obstructed, please put it down the street or … anywhere else. But if you had no cell service and your call dropped as you backed out of your…

> I don’t think anti-5G wackos have dented a thing.

They have, at least here in Germany. We have a shitload of what we call "weiße Flecken", zones with zero service, of about the size of half of Schleswig-Holstein [1]. While a lot of these is in forests and mountainous areas, the zones in settlements are mostly due to the whackos and their organized campaigns.

[1] https://bmds.bund.de/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/detail/mob...

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

testing22321 wrote: post #190
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #159

Solar power benefits the rich in Australia. Renters, as usual, rarely get it.

Did you read the article? It clearly said the free electricity will be for renters too.

You are not allowed to say that on this site! PLEASE respect the rules

As I said........

In Australia - solar power overwhelmingly benefits the rich over renters.

A few hours a day of free electricity for all does not wipe that out.

Solar power is a rich persons thing in Australia, remains very very strongly true.

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Post by sevenseacat »

andrewinardeer wrote: post #140

On the flip side here in Australia the government for years encouraged us to get panels put on our house by selling it as, "You can export power and create a small income exporting the surplus you create". So many people did so that at one point last year the government said, "So many people are exporting it now, and the surplus is so great on the network we may have to charge you for exporting it". Wholesale power p…

My dad was a super super early adopter with a tiny 2kW system that cost him about $20k, but he has a grandfathered feed-in tariff of about 50c/kW.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually paid for electricity or gas (same provider) since.

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Post by Ekaros »

Razengan wrote: post #119

So just to fantasize for a bit, Suppose fusion power becomes a thing, and after handwaiving some issues let's assume it can power everything indefinitely. Does that make things like heating, cooling, travel, ocean desalination, bandwidth, AI, Bitcoin mining, permanently free? Shouldn't all of humanity be homing in on that holy grail? I read here and there that geothermal could be the next best thing. Maybe HN can say…

No.

There is always some capital and operational costs. Plus transfer. Limit is cost of infra and operations. And the financing costs. So you can get to very cheap, but not free.

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Post by lysp »

amai wrote: post #288

When it is day in Australia it is night in Europe. If one could transport electricity from Australia to Europe and vice versa this would be a win-win situation.

Mike Cannon-Brookes is involved with a company (Sun Cable) which plans on exporting Australian Solar to Singapore via a 4200km undersea DC cable.

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Post by computerthings »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #139
b112 wrote: post #97

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Yes indeed. All those unfortunate children will be introduced to the toxic, horrid internet. They'll be addicted, have no attention span, have their own data used against them to exploit and track them, and end up with their political system reeling under manipulative AI and generic bots. Far better to just give them books for their educarional system, and leave the evil Internet out of it.

Wow. Everything in life has good and bad consequences. It is important that we remember to look towards the light. What you describe at its worst is still better than the exploitation many of the children in the Philippines endure today by westerners. Hopefully, being able to communicate on the 'evil Internet', the rest of the world, like you, can truly understand what they endure.

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