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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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I find garage to require quite a lot of fiddling.

Care to elaborate?

There were setup commands I needed to run before the docker image did anything. I’m used to just specifying an access/secret key and having it work.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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They abandoned documentation (edit: for the open source codebase) a couple of weeks ago - that seems more significant. From their Slack on Oct 10: "The documentation sites at docs.min.io/community have been pulled of this morning and will redirect to the equivalent AIStor documentation where possible ". [emphasis mine] The minio/docs repository hasn't been updated in 2 weeks now, and the implication is that isn't goi…

With 100PB clusters being built and not a cent going to them, you can see why minio has gone this route. I wonder if they will be "valkeyed"? Not by AWS presumably.

If they charged a cent, would people adopt it in the first place?

They still got paid for those free users. Via investments. Cash is cash. I don’t KNOW what the RIGHT business model is, I don’t run MinIO, and neither do you.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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During an upgrade, I discovered that the console had been removed without any prior notice. MinIO really pissed me off. Over a month ago, I started looking for a MinIO alternative and found RustFS. I've been testing RustFS for over a month now, and the product continues to improve, with the community fixing bugs very quickly. I hope YC will invest in this company.

There is a nice table here https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs?tab=readme-ov-file#rustfs-v... comparing RustFS to MinIO, including a claim about the MinIo support price.

The benchmark against MinIO is nice, but I don't care much for the table vs. "Other object storage" which seems to try to aggregate all the worst points of all the others with no citation (e.g. why should I believe RustFS has no intellectual property risk but others do? What's different about them to back that up?).

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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OK - I live in a place that's snowy for a lot of the year. I shovel not only my sidewalk but my neighbours' several houses on both sides. People are really happy and grateful. Over the years Mr. Johnson the senior on a fixed pension next door loses mobility and is really appreciative I keep his walk clean. The couple next to him has a new baby and a clear sidewalk helps them load up all the accompanying gear into the…

Actually, in your analogy the reason why you stopped matters a great deal. For example, if you stopped shoveling snow because you are sick/injured, or because you are caring for a family member, nobody would think less of you as a neighbor. It's only if you stopped for a selfish reason that people would negatively judge your neighborliness. So to the extent that the analogy is instructive as to how we should think ab…

I mean, fair, but again, notice you're trying to actually, idk, understand the situation, use empathy.

I see GGP's comment attitude all too frequently on the internet ("nobody is entitled to anything") as the default. Which is such a nasty connotative strawman, it's kind of absurd. But hey, that's the internet for you.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them. What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-org…

> I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. Every time I read something like this, I recall this post from Rich Hickey[1][2] on why no one is entitled to benefit from another human being's goodwill and time. From the post: > The only people entitled to say how open source 'ought' to work are people who run projects, and the scope of their entitlement extend…

But not everything can be "fair game" when providing a service for free. Surely it wouldn't have been OK if they suddenly included a bitcoin miner or extracted credentials. They offered a free service, people trusted it, depended on it. Now, in my view, they have some responsibilty to their users.

Giving a notice in advance and releasing a final image that patched the CVE would've been reasonably responsible.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Nothing like VC or IPO to ruin a perfectly good product...

it used to be that people started businesses so that they could help others by providing a product or a service to them. late stage capitalism arrives when people create businesses solely to get rich, and when other companies are created solely to get rich by helping those people create their companies so that they can get rich. that's what ycombinator is. most of capitalism used to be symbiotic. engaging in transact…

If they were giving it away for free and paying a non-zero cost to do it, that's not sustainable. And that clearly isn't taking all the benefit for themselves. This is a take so bad, it isn't a take anymore...its a personality flaw.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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I don't see how "basic commodity required for life" is a necessary criteria for any ethical standards to apply at all. This is about trust, community and how to be a good project steward.

Then will you be volunteering your time and resources? Remember: once you start volunteering, you cannot stop, because you will "break everyone's trust and expectations" or even be "malicious". Happy volunteering.

This is exactly what happens when you volunteer. When you've had enough, or just want to spend your time in other ways, you're hounded to come back, to continue to help, and to varying degrees made to feel guilty because you decided to stop doing something that you had been offering for free.

I don't think this is a reason to never volunteer but you have to develop a thick skin, know where your lines are, and at some point politely but firmly say "no."

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