It's like showing modern children's TV to kids.
LLMs can get "brain rot"
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Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#282I don't understand why people have a hard time understanding 'garbage in, garbage out'. If you train your model on junk, then you will have a junk model.
I suspect this is “the computer is always right”.
A lot of people think computers have better answers than people.
AI is just another type of computer. It knows a lot of things and sounds confident. Why wouldn’t it be right?
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#283“Studying “Brain Rot” for LLMs isn’t just a catchy metaphor—it reframes data curation as cognitive hygiene for AI, guiding how we source, filter, and maintain training corpora so deployed systems stay sharp, reliable, and aligned over time.” An LLM-written line if I’ve ever seen one. Looks like the authors have their own brainrot to contend with.
This is pretty clearly an LLM-written sentence, but the list structure and even the em dashes are red herrings. What qualifies this as an LLM sentence is that it makes a mildly insightful observation, indeed an inference, a sort of first-year-student level of analysis that puts a nice bow on the train of thought yet doesn't really offer anything novel. It doesn't add anything; it's just semantic boilerplate that also…
for me it was the word "corpora"
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, em dashes are not all that common in text that people have written on computers, because em dashes were left out of ASCII. They're common in high-quality text like Wikipedia, academic papers, and published books. My guess is that comma-separated lists tend to be a feature of text that is attempting to be either comprehensively expository—listing all the possibilities, all the relevant factors, etc.—or persuasiv…
I was surprised to learn from your comment that em dashes were left out of ASCII, because I thought I've been using them extensively in my writing. Perhaps I'm just relying heavily on the hyphen key. I mention that because it's likely instances of true em dash use (e.g. in the high-quality text you cite) and hyphen usage by people like me are close enough together in a vector space that the general pattern of a littl…
On typewriters all characters are the same width, typically about ½em wide. Some of them compromised their hyphen so that you could join two of them together to form an em dash, but a good hyphen is closer to ¼em wide. But that compromise also meant that a single hyphen would work very well as an en dash. And generally hyphenation was not very important for typewriters because you couldn't produce properly justified text on a typewriter anyway, not without carefully preplanning each line before you began to type it.
Computers unfortunately inherited a lot of this typewriter crap.
Related compromises included having only a single " character; shaping it so that it could serve as a diaeresis if overstruck; shaping some apostrophes so that they could serve as either left or write single quotes and also form a decent ! if overstruck with a .; alternatively, shaping apostrophe so that it could serve as an acute accent if overstruck, and providing a mirror-image left-quote character that doubled as a grave accent; and shaping the lowercase "l" as a viable digit "1", which more or less required the typewriter as a whole to use lining figures rather than the much nicer text figures.
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been doing that for decades. See for example https://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-tol@canonical.org/msg000... : > Many programming languages provide an exception facility that terminates subroutines without warning; although they usually provide a way to run cleanup code during the propagation of the exception (finally in Java and Python, unwind-protect in Common Lisp, dynamic-wind in Scheme, local variable destr…
It's less about the punctuation used, and more about the necessity of the punctuation used. In the sentence you provided, you make a series of points, link them together, and provide examples. If not an em dash, you would have required some other form of punctuation to communicate the same meaning The LLM, in comparison, communicated a single point with a similar amount of punctuation. If not an em dash- it could hav…
Yes, I like to believe that I am sentient, expressing coherent thoughts clearly and compactly, and that this is the root of the difference.
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#286“Studying “Brain Rot” for LLMs isn’t just a catchy metaphor—it reframes data curation as cognitive hygiene for AI, guiding how we source, filter, and maintain training corpora so deployed systems stay sharp, reliable, and aligned over time.” An LLM-written line if I’ve ever seen one. Looks like the authors have their own brainrot to contend with.
This is pretty clearly an LLM-written sentence, but the list structure and even the em dashes are red herrings. What qualifies this as an LLM sentence is that it makes a mildly insightful observation, indeed an inference, a sort of first-year-student level of analysis that puts a nice bow on the train of thought yet doesn't really offer anything novel. It doesn't add anything; it's just semantic boilerplate that also…
Plus “X isnt just Y—it’s Z” another usual suspect
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#287LLMs are brain rot
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#288“Studying “Brain Rot” for LLMs isn’t just a catchy metaphor—it reframes data curation as cognitive hygiene for AI, guiding how we source, filter, and maintain training corpora so deployed systems stay sharp, reliable, and aligned over time.” An LLM-written line if I’ve ever seen one. Looks like the authors have their own brainrot to contend with.
I think it's funny/logical how research suggests LLM use makes the user—who is writing more content for the LLM to consume, of course—less intelligent, which makes the system get less intelligent over time.
Sugar, alcohol, cigarettes, and LLMs.
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been doing that for decades. See for example https://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-tol@canonical.org/msg000... : > Many programming languages provide an exception facility that terminates subroutines without warning; although they usually provide a way to run cleanup code during the propagation of the exception (finally in Java and Python, unwind-protect in Common Lisp, dynamic-wind in Scheme, local variable destr…
It's not about the em dash. The other sentence is obviously gpt and yours is obviously not. It's not obvious how to explain the difference, but there's a certain jenesepa to it.
Tu ne sais pas? Moi non plus.
Re: LLMs can get "brain rot"
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol. This is brilliant. I'm not sure if anyone else has this happen to them, but I noticed in college my writing style and "voice" woukd shift quite noticeably depending on whatever I was reading heavily. I wonder if I'll start writing more like an LLM naturally as I unavoidably read more LLM-generated content.
Everyone I've spoken to about that phenomena agrees that it happens to them. Whatever we are reading at the time, it reformats our language processing to change writing and, I found, even the way i speak. I suspect that individuals consistently exposed to and reading LLM output will be talking like them soon.
This reminds me:
When I was at a newish job (like 2 months?) my manager said I "speak more in a Brittish manner" than others. At the time I had been binge watching Top Gear for a couple weeks, so I guess I picked it up enough to be noticeable.
Of course I told him I'd been binging TG and we discovered a mutual love of cars. I think the Britishisms left my speech eventually, but that's not something I can figure out for myself!