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Post by DuckConference »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #199
overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

There's also the issue of iOS virtual memory limitations. Whereas macOS lets apps use swap space (duh), on iOS apps will be killed if their memory use is too high and they move into the background. (And possibly if it's too high while they're in the foreground, idk.) Which means you can't leave apps open in the background — they might be killed at any moment. And this makes true productivity basically impossible.

As of a few ipadOS versions ago, the higher performance models can use swap space now.

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

themadturk wrote: post #247
vessenes wrote: post #98

For the haters here - Apple sells roughly 2x as many iPads as Macs (including MacBooks). Roughly as many iPad Pros as laptops. I've cycled through using an iPad Pro as my main device on and off over the years - particularly the cellular modem has been a draw. For coding, they're terrible, as they are for longer form writing. I've ultimately shrunk down to the small size and use it as a kindle/gaming replacement. I th…

My wife uses the previous gen iPad Pro 11 inch for all her computing. Yes, her use is lightweight, and she rarely uses the file system. It think one of the points of popularity for the iPad is that it's the same (in most respects) as an iPhone, but bigger. The smartphone has become the default computing and communication device for billions of people. My wife can certainly use her iPhone, but she almost never does; t…

I didn't take the iPad seriously until my mother made it her default mode of internet access (while having a 15" MacBook Pro of the same era).

>the iPad fulfills that need for her

This was it, entirely.

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Post by varispeed »

red_hare wrote: post #211
varispeed wrote: post #153

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I bought iPad Pro M4 and I am yet to find a use case for it. Combined with non-secure cloud backup in the UK, I see it as a toy device. Watch YouTube, casually browse web (I am yet to install VPN). So far the most use I had with it was recording meetings, so that later I can relisten. If I was able to run Ubuntu on it or even macOs - that would have been a different story...

I've gotten 7 years out of my 2018 iPad Pro and, for my use case of video, browsing, and Procreate, it feels like new. And I believe a big part of that is that the A12X was wildly overpowered when I bought it. I think someone deciding between an M4 and an M5 today should consider its value 5 years down the road, rather than its value today.

My partner still uses iPad 2 (2011) in the kitchen to look up recipes.

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Post by eptcyka »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #218
eptcyka wrote: post #159

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It depends entirely on your target - you don’t need an emulator if you are already running an android device. Xcode on my macbook doesn’t need 12GB. It is of course a different story if you need to also run clang-analyzer or rust-analyzer in addition to xcode/studio, but still, 16GB would be enough to get by for a sizeable chunk of devs.

(I replied to the wrong comment originally) I haven’t done mobile development for ages, but isn’t it always slower to have to update the app on the phone all of the time?

Not always. And there are things that just do not work on emulators.

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Post by walterbell »

sysguest wrote: post #263
walterbell wrote: post #237

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Mac Mini = iPad minus screen, minus iOS restrictions, with Apple Silicon and optional 10GbE wired.

damn I hope apple will make a "iSurface Air" laptop macbook air + multitouch + apple pen

They are supposedly working on a 19" foldable all-screen laptop that's a few years away.

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Post by AppleBananaPie »

Terretta wrote: post #257
AppleBananaPie wrote: post #195

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Yeah I need a local mac for builds / debugging :( Thanks for the info, I'll dream of better days ;)

Not really, Xcode Cloud will auto-build from an event hook on a GitHub commit. You can use this to fix bugs in iOS apps from the park and try new TestFlight builds within minutes.

What I work on is much too large for those to be options :)

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Post by poulsbohemian »

overgard wrote: post #37

I get the impression they're trying to market this to laptop users. I'm still very skeptical of iPads as a productivity device. The problem isn't the hardware, it's the OS, the app store and the model for selling apps. Apple's app store policies make it hard to sell expensive software (which most productivity apps are somewhat expensive), it also makes it hard to distribute free software (as in open source -- because…

Back when I was a software developer, I needed a Mac Book Pro or Mac Pro. But as a Realtor, an iPad makes for an excellent laptop. Extremely portable and does everything I need in a mobile productivity device. For many people, it is absolutely everything they need in a computing device and gets better with each release.
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