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That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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The author does not dispute devices were found. Author expresses a belief it was controlled by a criminal enterprise. Author then claims to understand the intent of said enterprise. The pattern: 1. Corroborate fact. 2. Pose plausible cause of fact. 3. Present unsubstantiated claim as fact. Sounds like propaganda to me.

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Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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Once a Chinese grad student explained to me a difference he noted between Chinese and American citizens. He said in China no really reads or watches 24/7 major news outlets in China. They are fully aware that all of it is propaganda and just go about their life. He said Americans seem to get really emotional over content in the press and seem to really struggle with the idea of propaganda / journalism in the news. I…

While I think I agree with most of what you're saying, I think it can be misunderstood and it can be very damaging when taken to an extreme, so I'll just leave a quote from the absolutely fantastic 20 lessons from the 20th century by Timothy Snyder: > Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing…

But what if you don't know the facts? And how can you if you don't have eyes on the situation or know someone who does. I'd rather go with Mark Twain:

> It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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post #98

Once a Chinese grad student explained to me a difference he noted between Chinese and American citizens. He said in China no really reads or watches 24/7 major news outlets in China. They are fully aware that all of it is propaganda and just go about their life. He said Americans seem to get really emotional over content in the press and seem to really struggle with the idea of propaganda / journalism in the news. I…

unfortunately we are trending toward that direction, trust in media is hitting all time lows in the US.

Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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Everyone is debunking a claim that wasn't made. > The Secret Service dismantled a network of more than 300 SIM servers and 100,000 SIM cards in the New York-area that were capable of crippling telecom systems and carrying out anonymous telephonic attacks, disrupting the threat before world leaders arrived for the UN General Assembly > that were capable of They didn't say this is what it was used for but that it was c…

It's an unnecessary claim to be made that only serves to promote FUD, which is why a lot of rationalists are debunking it.

That's like saying "during an arrest a car was impounded - this vehicle has the capability to plow into a school and harm children". Like yeah sure the capability is there, but without evidence of intention, why say it?

Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminded me of a YouTube clip I watched years ago. It was basically a retired KGB agent explaining how the media purposely puts out conflicting stories. This breaks the brain of the citizens, and they're unable to know what is true. We indeed see this here in the US. I can't tell you what is true or false (in media) objectively. I can choose what I want to believe is true, though.

Known as the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

This wikipedia article needs some work.

Re: That Secret Service SIM farm story is bogus

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post #98

Once a Chinese grad student explained to me a difference he noted between Chinese and American citizens. He said in China no really reads or watches 24/7 major news outlets in China. They are fully aware that all of it is propaganda and just go about their life. He said Americans seem to get really emotional over content in the press and seem to really struggle with the idea of propaganda / journalism in the news. I…

The constant news consumption isn't just an American thing.

I live in Britain and have colleagues and friends who (admittedly) watch or read news first thing after waking up, and read news website articles constantly throughout the day.

We're talking, multiple times per hour. They read the news more frequently than things happen to be in the news.

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