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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by zzrrt »

rdtsc wrote: post #271
danaris wrote: post #256

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> But that meant having to defend making up stuff about a murder What was Kimmel making up? The fact that the shooter was conservative, from a conservative family? The fact that Kirk openly advocated for gun violence? Please do tell us exactly what was being "made up," here.

> The fact that the shooter was conservative, from a conservative family? He implied it was trump maga head or some kind. Not just implied, he made it sound like it's a sure thing. Moreover, it applied to a crime that was just committed. When FCC threatened them ABC knew they couldn't appeal or fight. It wasn't worth it, it would have been a PR disaster. This guy is nothing like a maga whatever, he as trans girlfrien…

> That's the intentionally spreading misinformation related to a crime

Looking forward to Rep. Mike Lee, Nancy Mace et al also being fired for spreading misinformation about politically-motivated killings. Also waiting for Trump’s public address denouncing political violence against MN Rep. Melissa Hortman.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc »

zzrrt wrote: post #279
rdtsc wrote: post #230

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Yeah that is definitely on the table, we'll see what happens. Here, interestingly, just a threat was enough. I wonder why the owners didn't want to fight it at all? The speed with with they folded was very telling. As others mentioned, I suspect if they decided they just didn't want to keep paying Kimmel for the show. He was making somewhere around $15m/year or something they saw a chance to say "goodbye".

IANAL but this doesn’t get them out of their contract though. They could “say ‘goodbye’” anytime they wanted and continue paying the rest of the contract. They are submitting to what they view as either an existential threat, or the opportunity to make millions in the merger they want the FCC chair to approve.

It depends on what the contract says. Each side has various clauses to protect their interests, like say if Kimmel starting showing porn on his show, now the station risks FCC license they can drop him. I imagine there was something.

Technically I think they could have fought, could have argued he was just describing the behavior of maga people or that his shows is all made up parody and everyone should know it, etc. However it would have been a losing PR battle even if the FCC lost eventually in court.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by DengistKhan »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #280
lukev wrote: post #275

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Alternatively, perhaps it is the duty of the executives to defend their company, its viewers and employees, when confronted with unlawful and unreasonable government demands.

If only they had a little money to fight back with.

Unfortunately, Disney is just a small bean startup, there's basically no way they would be able to hire good enough lawyers and weather the storm.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc »

zzrrt wrote: post #281
rdtsc wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact that the shooter was conservative, from a conservative family? He implied it was trump maga head or some kind. Not just implied, he made it sound like it's a sure thing. Moreover, it applied to a crime that was just committed. When FCC threatened them ABC knew they couldn't appeal or fight. It wasn't worth it, it would have been a PR disaster. This guy is nothing like a maga whatever, he as trans girlfrien…

> That's the intentionally spreading misinformation related to a crime Looking forward to Rep. Mike Lee, Nancy Mace et al also being fired for spreading misinformation about politically-motivated killings. Also waiting for Trump’s public address denouncing political violence against MN Rep. Melissa Hortman.

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. It's specific corner case of FCC licensing. ABC didn't have to cancel Jimmy and could have called FCC's bluff and tried to file a lawsuit based on 1st Amendment. But the PR look was pretty bad. Instead of saying "condolences for the family, etc" now they are defending Kimmel's phrasing.

> Looking forward to Rep. Mike Lee also being fired for spreading misinformation about a politically-motivated killing.

It's going to happen once the democrats are in power and fox or whatever channel broadcast lie and it's related to a crime. I don't see it happening in congress though.

> MN Rep. Melissa Hortman.

Sadly I don't know if anyone there knows who Hortman is.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by [deleted] »

digitaltrees wrote: post #234
nerdponx wrote: post #36

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It wasn't controversial, but this is literally the textbook Manufacturing Consent model. The small number of people in positions of power at the network are either overtly aligned with the president that he just talked bad about, or want to stay or get on the president's good side. He doesn't even need to pick up the phone or post anything on social media, they know what they need to do.

To be fair to the executives. The main regulator that could essentially issue the corporate death penalty, the FCC chairman that can revoke their license to operate, literally said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. That’s a Dirty Harry or goodfellas quote. So much for “government shouldn’t pick winners and losers in the economy”.

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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by kingkawn »

rdtsc wrote: post #273
kingkawn wrote: post #259

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That’s a lotta words to justify complete bs

> That’s a lotta words to justify complete bs If that's the rebuttal, I'll take it as an acknowledgement that's it's right.

How mouth breather of you

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc »

kingkawn wrote: post #288
rdtsc wrote: post #273

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> That’s a lotta words to justify complete bs If that's the rebuttal, I'll take it as an acknowledgement that's it's right.

How mouth breather of you

I do use moth my mouth and my nose for breathing. Not sure how that matters, but ok.
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