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Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I love Midnight Commander so much; I install it on every system I use. It's so much more efficient/pleasant when in comes to navigating the filesystem and doing basic operations, especially when you learn the shortcuts and learn how to use it along with other command-line tools (hint: if you press Ctrl+O in MC it will switch to a normal shell command prompt it the directory you're in, and you can press Ctrl+O again t…

Awesome project from 90s, I remember it from 1992 at the university.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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My only issue with it is that it does not come with vim keybindings by default, I love to have consistent keybindings across my system / TUI tools

You might like Yazi[0], although the layout is more "modern" (like ranger / nnn etc.) uses tabs for multiple different views. [0]: https://yazi-rs.github.io/

Oh thanks for the tip, appreciate it.

I see it can even do file previews with kitty which is perfect as I already use kitty as my default terminal.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I love Midnight Commander so much; I install it on every system I use. It's so much more efficient/pleasant when in comes to navigating the filesystem and doing basic operations, especially when you learn the shortcuts and learn how to use it along with other command-line tools (hint: if you press Ctrl+O in MC it will switch to a normal shell command prompt it the directory you're in, and you can press Ctrl+O again t…

> Ctrl+O in MC will switch to a normal prompt

Better yet! (one-line) shell prompt is always available and has some nifty integrations via . For example, one has a bunch of files visually tagged (selected) on current panel, and wants to tar them up as "/tmp/foo.tgz". Well...

   tar czf /tmp/foo.tgz 

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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Anytime I see this stuff, I get nostalgic for Norton Commander (it was HUGE in the USSR when I was a kid learning computers in the late 80s and early 90s) But somehow the reality of how I - and I think most people - use computers today is very different. I don't find myself navigating a shallow directory hierarchy and making file operations too often. A part of it is that all the stuff is in the cloud or at least con…

I use MC all the item for both work and personal (and was using NC back in the day before MC). I find it much faster/more productive than all the GUI file explorers I've tried.

Recursively find files -> Panelize alone is worth the price of admission.

Multi-file select.

Two-panel for easy moving/copying files, including to cloud/remote/ssh drives (just mount them).

Quickly go back to previously visited folders in your history.

Compare folders.

etc etc

> I jump to a random far-away directory

Esc-C and type in the path. I do it all the time in MC.

> or edit a specific file

Navigate to folder (above), type first letters of filename to find it, press F4 to edit.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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Midnight commander is a great tool, although I think most younger users do not realize that we lost something along the way. Norton Commander was fantastically fast for common file operations not just because of the dual-pane design, but because of several things working together. Thoughtful design of software while thinking of hardware. To get the most out of it, you were supposed to use the numpad on your keyboard.…

> ESC was supposed to work immediately, not after a delay. It's not mc's fault, the Escape delay is added by the terminal emulator, to correctly handle escape sequences. You can probably configure it, but the most portable way that works everywhere is to simply press it twice quickly. It's only barely slower than the DOS way of doing it, and much faster than pressing and waiting for a second.

I don't even understand the problem: ESC and the following key is generally just an alias for ALT+key.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I'm sure it has evolved, but Midnight Command began as a recreation of Norton Commander for DOS PCs. I've not used Midnight Commander in particular, but back in my DOS programming days Norton Commander was my best friend.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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It's a heavily GenX-coded tool. If you never used Norton Commander there's no point really.

Midnight Commander was coded by a Gen Xer, but Norton Commander was coded by a Baby Boomer ;)

As in culturally coded. Say MS BASIC was also written by a boomer but most users were Gen X.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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post #186

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It's a heavily GenX-coded tool. If you never used Norton Commander there's no point really.

Depending on where you're from you might have used another orthodox file manager. For some reason they've been very popular in central and eastern European countries. For example i've worked three Polish gamedev companies and in every single one of them most people (including people who weren't even born in the days of Norton Commander) used Total Commander (it is GUI-based but the shortcut keys and overall layout ar…

From what I've seen at the time Total Commander didn't stick unless the user was already exposed to NC or its clones. People starting afresh with Windows 95 couldn't be arsed to use anything except File Explorer.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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Mazochist :)

:-D I honestly don't mind it. I used the Windows 3 UI, complete with File Manager, until 1996. I didn't mind it at all. But I thought the Windows 95 Explorer was an amazing tool when it was launched, and as soon as Win NT got Explorer with NT 4, I switched to it. I have never been unhappy. I can tile 2 windows side-by-side in moments if I want that old source-and-destination layout. It works absolutely great. I tried…

+power user

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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The English word for that is "canonical".

To me, "canonical" feels more descriptive whereas "orthodox" has a prescriptive connotation. But I'm also ESL, so not sure if that's just me or common in any/all English-speaking countries.

"Canonical" is used all the time in math to mean, roughly speaking, a "standard" or "preferred" way of doing things.
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