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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by boxed »

p1dda wrote: post #278
pm90 wrote: post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

That is a truly naïve way of thinking about a pharmaceutical product. Would you say the same about any other drug? What about blood pressure medicines, should everyone "consider getting it"? Completely ignorant, you have to consider multiple factors for the individual before taking any pharmaceutical drug and then you have to consider the risk from the drug, yes, low and behold, even vaccines can give side effects! T…

Sweden is also on the verge of eradicating this disease. How many deaths you ask? Zero of course.

You're very confused about the statistics here.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by boxed »

illiac786 wrote: post #254
shirro wrote: post #231

Good stuff. Australia has a target for eliminating cervical cancer by 2035 and ofcourse HPV is responsible for a large proportion of penile, mouth, throat and anal cancers as well. All my kids got free vaccinations at school. It is shocking that there are still places in the world where this is controversial. You can tell a lot about the qualities of a society by the way they care for their own.

You should think about how you would react to “you can tell a lot about the qualities of a society by the way they [detain people on Nauru | reject asyl seekers | don’t care for indigenous populations]”. I feel your comment is a generalisation and could be construed as provocation/trolling. Probably not your intention, but just so you are aware how this is coming over. Better maybe: “societies that have good health c…

No one mentioned the US before you did.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by navi0 »

v3ss0n wrote: post #276

Can I still take that vaccine regardless of sexual activity as a 41 years old male? Will it prevent centers that can cause by HPV?

It could still protect you from one or more strains that you haven’t been exposed to through sexual partners and avoid contracting or passing it along to a future partner. There’s no practical way for a man to be tested for HPV (I asked and the doc said “it’ll be very painful and the result will be the same: get the vax”)

I experienced zero side effects when I got HPV vaxxed at 38yo.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by illiac786 »

boxed wrote: post #282
illiac786 wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should think about how you would react to “you can tell a lot about the qualities of a society by the way they [detain people on Nauru | reject asyl seekers | don’t care for indigenous populations]”. I feel your comment is a generalisation and could be construed as provocation/trolling. Probably not your intention, but just so you are aware how this is coming over. Better maybe: “societies that have good health c…

No one mentioned the US before you did.

I don’t understand your point. Why would my critic (of the form, to be clear again) not apply anymore if the parent comment meant the french?

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by elric »

Fomite wrote: post #246
yieldcrv wrote: post #219

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I'm male and read about this exposure vector back in 2012 when it was only rolled out to 12 year old girls, with a further guideline that nobody over 26 should take it. this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety, and just run of the mill 'is the government condoning sex' anxiety, and it was controversial for that reason alone the issue was that if you've been exposed already then the vaccine doesn't work. they had a test for w…

"this was pre- antivaxxer anxiety" - It was really, really not. Another thing to keep in mind was that the initial trials were only using cervical cancer endpoints - the association between HOV infection and cervical cancer is really strong. At that time, vaccinating boys provided only indirect protection (you couldn't infect a female partner), rather than direct protection (you won't be infected) in the context of c…

> Women prior to sexual debut were the biggest "bang for the buck" and the obvious first recommendation target.

It was a stupid decision to leave out the boys. I mean hindsight is 20/20, but if heterosexual women were getting cervical cancer from HPV, and HPV is spread by sexual activity, then vaccinating the boys along with the girls would have been the logical thing to do in order to stop the spread.

I assume this wasn't done because they didn't do any studies on boys at first, because they were looking for cervical abnormalities to gauge vaccine effectiveness, and maybe it would have been hard to recruit a bunch of boys for a vaccine study that would probably not benefit them.

With that same hindsight we now know that HPV vaccination also prevents some oral cancers, and that leaving out the boys was a very stupid decision indeed.

These days most places do seem to also vaccinate boys. I got an HPV vaccine at some point in my 30s, and I pretty much had to wrestle my doctor into submission in order to get a prescription.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by user432678 »

pixelpoet wrote: post #262
user432678 wrote: post #211

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Finally, affordable housing!

Yeah, screw those old people with their houses! We should deliberately kill them off so that we can have cheaper houses! But please, don't let the next generation do that to us when housing turns out to be expensive for them too! Brilliant.

Fun fact, that’s what happened in my country of birth, which is USSR. To some extent.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by dreamcompiler »

pyuser583 wrote: post #175
SchemaLoad wrote: post #169

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In most countries it's recommended for everyone. It just isn't in the US because they don't want to pay for it.

From what I have heard, that is true for many, many vaccines. I think it's weird and creepy people are selectively opting into vaccines that are not recommended for them. It feels a bit like those ads that say "bring up Expedia with your doctor!" This isn't a good PSA. Should I be vaccinated against smallpox too? How about anthrax?

There is no human alive who has smallpox that you could catch it from, so getting vaccinated for it is pointless unless you think it's likely that some samples in a lab somewhere might escape.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by DownGoat »

Fomite wrote: post #48
riggsdk wrote: post #40

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In Denmark you can. I was in my mid thirties when I went to my doctor to ask them to prescribe it. Before each shot I would go to the pharmacy and buy one dose and go to the doctor to have them administer it for me (if I wanted to). At that time I think it was free for teenage girls, now it's free for teenage boys as well.

The evolution of who gets HPV vaccines is really interesting. At first it was young women, as vaccinating young men had a very marginal decrease in cervical cancer rates via indirect protection (which itself is a function of how many young women are vaccinated). Then as HPV infection was linked to more cancers, vaccinating young men crossed the cost-effectiveness thresholds many governments use. Vaccinating older pop…

But from a personal POV it is very cost-effective! Even if it is not so at the population at as large group.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by xkbarkar »

pm90 wrote: post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

In Denmark its not recommended for women over a certain age.

So please don’t get it regardless of age. Its not really considered effective for women who have been sexually active for some time.

Which is why its only recommended for girls, not women.

https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/boernevaccination/vaccinati....

Tldr; Dont rush to get a vaccine that is probably not effective for you. Make an appointment with your doctor and discuss it with her first.

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