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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by lan321 »

V__ wrote: post #179
lapetitejort wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riffing on a comment I saw on one of LinusTechTip's "Switch to Android/Apple" videos: phone users misinterpret familiarity with intuitiveness and polish. Android is "intuitive" to me because I've been using it more than a decade. It's "polished" because I'm blind to the rough edges.

I would agree with you before Apple switched everything to gestures. Any time I now have to help a family member out on an iPhone I get extremely frustrated. Does the interface want me to swipe, long press or do something else? There are no real hints. Extremely irritating.

I despise my work iPhone for the gestures and the screen lock canceling a call if it's not picked up yet, but turning the screen off if the call has been answered. Nothing more annoying than pinging someone by mistake and then calling each other with perfect timing so you both get the message that the other party is already in a call a couple of times.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by ubermonkey »

I still do not understand the appeal of a folding phone. I mean, phones are solid devices now, and they work for years upon years if you don't have some kind of mishap. Putting a hinge in the display 100% is creating a weak point in that display. It's very likely going to reduce lifespan for an expensive device.

I get gadgetlust, sure, but is it more that that?

The other thing is that even if I wanted a folding display, it wouldn't be enough to get me to jump platforms.

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Post by simoncion »

jcgl wrote: post #257
simoncion wrote: post #40

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If one is interested in small smartphones, the Unihertz Jelly series of phones might satisfy that interest. (Amazingly, "small" is roughly the size of the Nexus S... which I found to be the ideal phone size for my large hands.)

I’d love the Jelly, but all of Unihertz’s stuff is basically devoid of software updates :( I’m not gonna buy e-waste.

> I’m not gonna buy e-waste.

e-waste? Their latest phone is running the very same version as the four-year-old Pixel 5a; Android 14.

Incidentally... not only does my Pixel 5a still runs software distributed through the Play Store just fine, its battery life is still quite acceptable.

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Post by GrantS »

whycome wrote: post #202
dotancohen wrote: post #173

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For the few months that I had to use an iPhone in addition to my regular Android phone, I also tried to convince myself that some things were better and some things were worse. But the iOS keyboard was completely unusable for me as a power user, and it cannot be replaced. I was missing so many features of Gboard. I absolutely could not consider an iPhone or any other replacement phone for that matter, if it does not…

iOS must have changed some things related to keyboards. On an iPhone many years ago it was definitely a better experience. I’m not sure if some sort of predictive text gets in the way or what. Or maybe something with the spacing. Or it also seems like some sort of thread priority issue because there are times where I can distinctly tell that there’s some sort of input lag that’s messing with it. Gboard is crippled on…

Wow, as others have said below, disabling the “Slide to Type” feature in Settings > General > Keyboard makes typing work well again on iOS. I cannot believe I put up with this awful typing experience for the past year/years. This should be broadcast more widely somehow. I’m sure many people have just assumed they got worse at typing. I am genuinely flabbergasted.

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Post by skeezyboy »

baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

? I use it a lot to read PDFs and watch videos...

only if I cannot reasonably access a computer will i use a thumb-typing touchscreen device to do serious work. as computing devices, they are sub-par when compared to desktops. as telephones, they are subpar compared to dumbphones

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Post by chiph »

ubermonkey wrote: post #282

I still do not understand the appeal of a folding phone. I mean, phones are solid devices now, and they work for years upon years if you don't have some kind of mishap. Putting a hinge in the display 100% is creating a weak point in that display. It's very likely going to reduce lifespan for an expensive device. I get gadgetlust, sure, but is it more that that? The other thing is that even if I wanted a folding displ…

I think there are two factors that drive the purchase. Primarily - it's a status symbol. I am reminded of the scene with Paul Allen's business card...

But also that it's useful when you want a larger display surface in a more portable form. Like watching films on an airplane or reading documents without having to constantly swipe & zoom.

I agree with the other poster(s) that Apple is likely working on a folding model, even though it would sabotage sales of some iPad models.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by fennecbutt »

thebruce87m wrote: post #17

Apple are in a bind here since the bend/crease will degrade over time. Other manufacturers get a pass on this sort of stuff (just look at Pixel phones not making emergency calls for a prime example), but apple will be hit with fines and class action lawsuits.

Well not really. Apple ignored bendgate for ages, they ignored butterfly issues for ages, antennagate as well - to whicjbt they told customers "you're holding it wrong".

As for other manufacturers not being held liable, Galaxy Note 7 had plenty of related lawsuits and customer action holding them accountable amongst many other cases of the same.

Apple is just a company like any other.

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Post by fennecbutt »

Zigurd wrote: post #42

I hope the iPhone Air is successful. Folding phones seems so obviously a gimmick. A year from now many of these relatively affordable folding phones will be e-trash, and social media will be full of complaints and retrospective wisdom about how they could never have been reliable. But consumer product offerings are full of gimmicks. Apple is trying not to give into herd mentality.

Wdym? Why act like the iPhone air is the start of the thin phone trend when the Samsung edge came out before it, and I'm sure plenty of other specifically targeting thinness phones came out even before that. Sounds like Apple is giving into "herd mentality" (which isn't actually a bad thing as long as the herd follows consumer needs).

Oh, but then it wouldn't be a special little club.

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Post by jcgl »

simoncion wrote: post #283
jcgl wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d love the Jelly, but all of Unihertz’s stuff is basically devoid of software updates :( I’m not gonna buy e-waste.

> I’m not gonna buy e-waste. e-waste? Their latest phone is running the very same version as the four-year-old Pixel 5a; Android 14. Incidentally... not only does my Pixel 5a still runs software distributed through the Play Store just fine, its battery life is still quite acceptable.

If you can find me credible evidence that Unihertz will support the device for 5+ years, delivering major version upgrades and timely security patches, then I'll take back what I said. In 2025, a lax approach to the OS lifecycle (especially with security patches) isn't legitimate and respectable.

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Post by idiotsecant »

jajko wrote: post #272
wffurr wrote: post #119

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>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

My wife is a doctor but exact opposite of power user for phones and technology overall. She switched from android to iphone 13 mini when it came out, I recommended it to her and thought Apple is ideal platform for her. Bough her ipods pro too, chargers and so on. The only, literally only thing she liked was the seamless integration of airpods with phone, hated literally everything else about the hardware and mainly i…

It's wild how HN will consistently vote down comments that don't have good experiences with apple products, even well thought out ones like this. At the time of this comment you're pretty heavily voted as a negative comment.
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