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Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by m463 »

catgirlinspace wrote: post #264
m463 wrote: post #208

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Thing is, privacy with apple is a marketing term. if apple offered actual privacy, you could: - find out what/when apps are running - find out who they are talking to - prevent it, including apple if you want and apple has all kinds of nonsense like deep links (apps can intercept links), bluetooth beacons (apps can talk to stuff in a store/location), and lots of other stuff behind the scenes. You can't find out if it…

If you go to Settings > Privacy & Security > App Privacy Report you can see domains contacted by an app, which apps contact a specific domain, and data and sensor access logs. Can also export it as a JSON file. I think the data and sensor access logs is a newer feature since I don’t think I’ve seen it before, but network activity has been in there for at least a few years. The network activity is also only domains an…

> - prevent it, including apple if you want

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Post by matrix87 »

Macha wrote: post #138

I'm actually considering buying myself an iPhone for the first time. I have basically two priorities when buying an phone: 1. Freedom. I should be able to build and run apps on it without the platform holder having a barrier on it. 2. Privacy. The phone shouldn't be an object to track me for better ad sales or any other purpose. Of course, priority 1 has until recently always led to Android while priority 2 has alway…

> but my USB-C port is failing

I'm having the same issue with my pixel 8 (along with the screen randomly turning green out of nowhere, so I have to "ground" the display to get it to work again)

In general the 8 feels a lot more cheaply made than the 6

I agree that the android UX is better than apple (or at least, it makes more sense to me). But I'd consider moving to iphone for build quality alone

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Post by matrix87 »

nik736 wrote: post #224
drumhead wrote: post #147

I've got a Pixel, this new iPhone hasnt got anything that convinces me to move to Apple. There's nothing compelling there, not technologically or aesthetically. Yes its more powerful, but what do they do with that power but play games? Until some new application emerges where that much power is needed I'll stick to the cheaper phones.

The Pixel is not cheaper. When comparing the Pixel 10 to the iPhone 17, the iPhone offers double the storage for the same price, while having all other iPhone features.

Pixels usually offer better black friday deals, you can get 100-200 off (at least when I got my 8)

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Post by theshrike79 »

delfinom wrote: post #277
m463 wrote: post #208

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Thing is, privacy with apple is a marketing term. if apple offered actual privacy, you could: - find out what/when apps are running - find out who they are talking to - prevent it, including apple if you want and apple has all kinds of nonsense like deep links (apps can intercept links), bluetooth beacons (apps can talk to stuff in a store/location), and lots of other stuff behind the scenes. You can't find out if it…

Not to mention Apple allows itself to use the data it gathers from you for itself, which is no different than Google.

Apple anonymises all data to a ridiculous degree, even when it's detrimental to the product's efficiency.

Like fetching map routes in multiple anonymised parts so that they don't know where you're going.

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Post by ksec »

It seems strange no one is giving any credit to 17, when it is one of the best value iPhone Apple has to offer for quite some time.

It is either equal to or better than iPhone 16 Pro. A year ago iPhone 16 Pro 256Gb would be $1099, iPhone 17 256GB today is $799, with a better SoC, better WiFi, same display and ProMotion, better screen protective layer. The only thing worst is the lack of Telephoto camera.

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Post by whatevaa »

nicbou wrote: post #220
Macha wrote: post #138

I'm actually considering buying myself an iPhone for the first time. I have basically two priorities when buying an phone: 1. Freedom. I should be able to build and run apps on it without the platform holder having a barrier on it. 2. Privacy. The phone shouldn't be an object to track me for better ad sales or any other purpose. Of course, priority 1 has until recently always led to Android while priority 2 has alway…

My Pixel 5 made me switch to iOS after a software update made it unusable. A year later, the iPhone mostly gets out of my way. However the keyboard and browser options are artificially limited. I can't easily set my own search engine on Safari either. Ad blocking works fine though. The hardware is the best I've had in years. Battery life is really good. Airdrop and Airplay are very useful, as are many other small fea…

You can't set a search engine on mobile safari?

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Post by whatevaa »

fluidcruft wrote: post #265
homebrewer wrote: post #260

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In some regions of the world a phone that is not considered "certified" by Google is only useful as a paperweight. For example, I wouldn't be able to interact with government services or use any banking with such a phone. (Notice the any and with — no, I can't switch to another bank except by emigrating somewhere, and banks are only available as mobile applications. No web.) So unless you're willing (and can afford!)…

Or... you just register with Google and sign things using your own keys to authorize them before sideloading. Or setup an LLC or whatever and register that entity with Google or whatever.

Nobody is going to setup LLC to sideload shii.

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Post by fluidcruft »

whatevaa wrote: post #287
fluidcruft wrote: post #265

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Or... you just register with Google and sign things using your own keys to authorize them before sideloading. Or setup an LLC or whatever and register that entity with Google or whatever.

Nobody is going to setup LLC to sideload shii.

Well not to sideload generally but if someone wanted to distribute an app "anonymously" wrt what the public sees.

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Post by snowwrestler »

dang wrote: post #267
snowwrestler wrote: post #246

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It would be cool if these sorts of internal references were implemented as a feature of HN, so the headlines and comment counts are up to date whenever they are displayed.

Maybe someday! but it's not always easy to do this without human intervention, since the matches aren't strictly URL based. Maybe a good LLM could do it.

I meant a feature a human activates. Like if you manually drop a HN URL into a comment, the site adds in the visible metadata when it publishes.

Or a “related” feature, separate from normal comments, that only admins can access. You manually designate the related posts and then the site displays them dynamically.

But yeah, fully automated would be pretty amazing, but challenging.

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Post by secabeen »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #273
secabeen wrote: post #195

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> Then once you capture the image, it's largely stuck on the device until you find a way to offload your images. I briefly experimented with cables that would let me do things like transfer images from the RX100 to my (Android at the time) mobile phone, for archiving and sending to family and friends. That turned the whole thing into the sort of science fair project that I didn't have time for as the parent of a very…

This is true, but switching to that mode is frustrating and you often have to use AWFUL mobileOS software to get the images. And my DLSL shoots like 25FPS and each raw file is 80MB. This is NOT fast to send over the wifi. Waiting until I can plug in the 2TB memory card to my Mac and use a huge screen to review all the photos is far more efficient even if it has much higher startup latency. Honestly this is a good rea…

I haven't had too much trouble with the Canon App, but YMMV.
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