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Re: iPhone Air

#281

"a breakthrough design" They copied pixel.

Edit: forgot which thread I’m on, yes the air looks much more like Pixel.

Copying pixel would have been great. They copied AND made it worse.

I wouldn’t in a million years buy a pixel, but their team deserves credit for making really beautiful hardware. IMO better than iPhone 16 Pro and MUCH better than iPhone 17 Pro.

Re: iPhone Air

#282
post #167

"Impossibly thin" is right in line with Patrick McGee's "Apple in China" who argues that the main reason for Apple's designs is to keep imitators at bay by introducing manufacturing challenges that only they can meet. Indeed impossible at the time of release. One generation after the other. He estimates this gains them about 6 months of headway. Tough world. (Yes, to be fair, there is more to this new phone than just…

The Samsung S25 Edge, which has already been on the market for a while, seems to be pretty popular. It's 0.16mm thicker than the Air. I've got to admit it was surprisingly pleasant to hold. I even did a low key bend test and it did not bend, but I literally had store security walk up to me and ask me not to do that. https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s25-edge/

0.16mm is roughly the diameter of a strand of human hair. (0.1 to 0.18mm.) In a consumer product, that's basically imperceptible -- and, in all but the most precision-engineered products, it would be within standard manufacturing tolerances.

So I suppose there already is a phone with an analogous form factor.

Re: iPhone Air

#283

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

The first SoC including Neural Engine was the A11 Bionic, used in iPhone 8, 8 Plus and iPhone X, introduced in 2017. Since then, every Apple A-series SoC has included a Neural Engine.

The Neural Engine is its own block. Neural Engine is not used for local LLMs on Macs. Neural Engine is optimized for power efficiency while running small models. It's not good for LARGE language models.

This change is strictly adding matmul acceleration into each GPU core where it is being used for LLMs.

Re: iPhone Air

#284

I dont know whats apple obsessions with thinness, instead they should focus on usability and battery life.

> they should focus on usability

usability is so '00. Nowadays the focus is on ads.

Re: iPhone Air

#285

The thin phone is engineering prep for Apple Vision Air.

It really does feel like there is a long term strategy with miniaturization and functional integration.

The power of a MacBook Pro in the bump of a phone, the rest is just battery, screen, antennas and heat dissipation. What other form factors are they working towards?

Software is eating hardware. I mean, who needs a phone or a laptop if they can be virtualized from a headset? Maybe the phone in the pocket becomes just a folding keyboard + battery combo.

Re: iPhone Air

#286

Clearly there is a disconnect between what commenters want and what actually sells.

The marketing shows what sells. People want to be 25, hot, in cool places with cool looking friends, with great lighting.

Re: iPhone Air

#287
I don't feel like I need a thin phone. I need a smartphone which can last for a week after a single charge. From what I understand, the energy density in modern battery processes is enough to pack 100 Wh battery into a phone, but for some reason we are stuck with 20 Wh for years.

Re: iPhone Air

#288
post #99

That is the dumbest side profile I have ever seen. The camera bump and camera together are thicker than the rest of this thing. By its design it now demands a massive case or just won't ever sit even reasonably flat on a table. Ridiculous.

It will arguably sit flatter than the prior iPhones, which rock diagonally. This will be tilted a bit, but at least be stable.

It won't be completely stable, when used without a case. The geometry is such that on the side of the lens it's the lens that is touching the surface where you put it, not the bar-shaped bump. Meaning, it won't sit on the long edge of the bar.

Re: iPhone Air

#290
Imagine putting the phone on the table and seeing it rocking side to side when you press it, the nightmare. Somebody needs to change this stupid trend urgently, we don't need thinner phones.
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