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Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by rapnie »

jv22222 wrote: post #260
9rx wrote: post #187

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Dehumanization is a poor framing, really. It was never humanized in the first place. Sure, those of us who have a technical understanding understand that it is likely that there are humans involved as an implementation detail, but from the user perspective there is no other human to be seen. If the technical backend were replaced by a sufficiently capable LLM (or whatever technology) absolutely nothing about the user…

I never thought about it this way. That technically every internet interaction is solo. Mind bending.

But much of internet interaction isn't solo, in all those places where online and offline have connections. There will be a ton of dehumanization once in the morning we type a quick and lazy "/greet Mary" on the console and the AI agent takes over fully, sends a personalised email to Mary in my voice, and adds a "Welcome back from vacation!" note, after consulting my agent-managed calendar. Fully decoupling us from each other.

Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

altruios wrote: post #263
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #206

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I agree. I think that it's the removal of an emotional connection, and that happens naturally, after a certain pause (an interesting study, would be to find out how long, and I'll bet there are people who can explicitly prevent the analytical part of their mind from taking the wheel).

I disagree that removing an emotional connection removes emotional responses of hate and wild dehumanization. I would categorize all such interactions as emotional. I argue that it is in fact the opposite: Having no analytical consideration for how another human might respond enflames emotions, not dampens them. It's called flame wars, not analytical wars.

It’s emotional connection that I’m talking about.

I feel that you are referring to the inwardly-focused thing that happens when we lose connection.

The analytical thing is the loss of emotional connection.

Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by korse »

card_zero wrote: post #211
pjc50 wrote: post #197

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I think it's an exaggeration of the "city effect": the denser an environment is, the more likely it is that people who see you out to talk to you are going to have a negative agenda, because everyone else is trying to keep their head down. If you meet a stranger at the North Pole, where you're the only two humans around, you're going to talk to them. If you meet a stranger in a remote village, you're probably going t…

What if you meet them in a remote corner of an unpopular online RPG?

Is pvp enabled?

Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by koliber »

jawilson2 wrote: post #275
koliber wrote: post #191

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What about the ad for your kids' school fundraiser? Or the ad for a used car that your cousin would love. Or the poster for the concert at your local community hall.

> What about the ad for your kids' school fundraiser? My kids should come home with a flyer for it. > Or the ad for a used car that your cousin would love. I will actively seek out and research a car. > Or the poster for the concert at your local community hall. Presumably this physical paper poster doesn't give me malware/AIDS if I look at it or tear off a slip. My overriding personal objective is to be able to exis…

> My overriding personal objective is to be able to exist without being expected to consume and spend constantly every moment, waking or otherwise

We're fully aligned. The original point I was trying to make is that advertising can be done well, in a way that is compatible with this objective. Unfortunately, in many cases they aren't.

> In an ideal world, I should have to give consent to be advertised to

I thought about this a while back, and I think being bombarded with requests for consent is worse than being bombarded with ads. Cookie consent banners convinced me.

> My kids should come home with a flyer for it.

Fliers are ads.

> I will actively seek out and research a car.

Probably in some classified ads.

Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by tzumaoli »

card_zero wrote: post #211
pjc50 wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's an exaggeration of the "city effect": the denser an environment is, the more likely it is that people who see you out to talk to you are going to have a negative agenda, because everyone else is trying to keep their head down. If you meet a stranger at the North Pole, where you're the only two humans around, you're going to talk to them. If you meet a stranger in a remote village, you're probably going t…

What if you meet them in a remote corner of an unpopular online RPG?

It reminds me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIFty-O4rOE TLDR: amazing things can happen, and people are actually nice in this kind of environment!

Re: 30 minutes with a stranger

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Post by BurningFrog »

alex-moon wrote: post #39

I'm increasingly convinced that social isolation is the single great social ill of our time. I am not one for "respecting others' opinions" at all, make no mistakes, if someone believes something incorrect - or worse - then they need to be corrected. But so much of the hate simmering away like a pot about to boil over is the result of loneliness. The evidence on this is startingly clear. https://www.sciencedirect.com…

> if someone believes something incorrect - or worse - then they need to be corrected

One discovery I've made is that they really don't. Nothing terrible happens if you don't correct people.

You can really just accept that people have some flaws and appreciate their positive sides!

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