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Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by notatoad »

dfxm12 wrote: post #214
notatoad wrote: post #28

this seems to be making its way to western shows as well - when taskmaster has a food based challenge, they often include a reassurance that the food didn't go to waste. and i've seen similar on some youtube shows. for example: https://youtu.be/_gNZR5IEsAA?si=x5nvoBzC9Xc4fxFs&t=1674

I hope they don't make the staff finish off stuff, like Marmite and porridge ice cream, which makes all the contestants gag. A more practical approach in this case, where the concerns are probably slightly different than what we see in the article, is probably a (monetary) donation to a food bank.

i'm fairly sure they're not going to be force-feeding the leftovers to anybody

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by williamtrask »

chris-orgmenta wrote: post #173
williamtrask wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If truth is defined as beliefs which lead one to make decisions that cause you/your society to thrive, this is a good thing (that the Old Testament has similarities to other major works). Implies a kind of evolutionary algorithm for truth. Likely implies these stories are more true because they’re more tried and tested. Societies who believed them became strong. If truth is about repeated experimentation or journalis…

To expand not refute, > If truth is defined as beliefs which lead one to make decisions that cause you/your society to thrive This is 'metaphorical truth' to be precise. But it's only a part of the virality of memes, not the whole. Propagation can occur not just due to usefulness, but to other factors such as simplicity/replicability, human susceptibility / 'key in a lock' etc. If survival was purely metaphorical tru…

Nice comment! I had forgotten about metaphorical truth. Sent me on a nice rabbit hole.

I think 'metaphorical truth' is correct but slightly too narrow. Pragmatic truth includes metaphorical truth but is slightly wider.

And while I agree with your assertion in the short run, I'm inclined to doubt its correctness in the long run. Most things eventually have consequences.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by small_scombrus »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #212
operator-name wrote: post #33

In the west we have “No Animals Were Harmed in the making of …”, which I’m only just learning comes from the American Humane Society: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Humane_Society#No_A... I had always thought it were a generic phrase!

Certified for free for SAG union productions (funded by the union at $1200/day). A perk of unionized production

> funded by the union at $1200/day

Haha WHAT

That's an insane amount of money to come out of union dues

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by wahern »

bambax wrote: post #219
schrectacular wrote: post #204

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"Magi" were priests of Zoraster. It is true that our current word for magic is derived from this root but that doesn't mean that the text is saying they were _magicians_.

> "Magi" were priests of Zoraster That's the etymology of the word, but there is no indication in the gospel of Matthew (the only one to even mention this) that it's a reference to Persia. That would be like saying when anyone who mentions "algorithm" is really talking about Uzbekistan, because al-Ḵwārizmī means 'the man of Ḵwārizm' (now Khiva).

AFAIU, in Ancient Greek culture Magi were often considered like Plato's Philosopher Kings. Greeks didn't have an accurate understanding of Zoroastrianism or the structure of Persian government, but for some reason they saw Persian leaders, and Magi in particular, as possessing a synthesis of political, religious, philosophical and scientific virtues. For example, they thought Persian leaders' grasp of astronomy meant the laws they promulgated were what we might call today, science-based. Magi represented idealized leadership rooted in reason, similar to the way today people of one country like to point at some other country du jour as an exemplar of rational governance, especially when critiquing their own government or society.

Aristotle and others specifically said that the Magi did not practice metaphysical sorcery. They believed the Magi could, for example, divine the future, but doing so through their study of astronomy (i.e. their science-y astrological knowledge).

The biblical account of the Magi and the star they followed perfectly matches the mythos of Persian Magi in Greek culture. The story itself tells the reader not only that those rational leaders over yonder were convinced about the importance of Jesus, but that they knew because "science" revealed it to them.

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Post by catnose »

I’m Japanese, and in Japan it’s pretty common for TV shows or YouTubers to get called out if they look like they’re wasting food. Japanese people really expect food not to be treated carelessly. Folks would love to see a “No food was wasted” one.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by badc0ffee »

adamcharnock wrote: post #156
crazygringo wrote: post #102

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This is the answer. The food is perfectly fine. It's fresh, there's catering on set, and it can be replaced as needed, unless it's something super unusual. BUT if you eat the food in one shot you need to eat it in all the shots for continuity, so you can edit it together. Get ready to start barfing after 40 big bites of the same damn thing. If you look closely, you'll also see the coffee/tea cups actors sip from are…

> If you look closely, you'll also see the coffee/tea cups actors sip from are usually empty. Can't afford the risk of accidentally spilling liquid on the costume and delaying the shoot. If I were a prop-master (is that what it is called?) I've always thought that I'd just have a bag of plaster of paris handy. Then 30 minutes before going on set just dump some in the prop-cup with some water. Sets quickly, density is…

Scott Reeder (who is a prop master and makes short videos on about his craft on various platforms) has weighed down disposable cups a couple different ways. One was dropping a mini water bottle into the cup, and another was dyed food grade silicone (for when the shot required a cup with the lid off).

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Post by pegasus »

dotancohen wrote: post #243
keiferski wrote: post #110

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It is mostly just proximity and framing. A hurt wild animal is alive and right in front of you. Meat from the grocery store is a prepackaged product that isn’t mentally associated with the bloody process behind the scenes required to get it there. The commercial aspect is pretty dependent on this distancing. Case-in-point: I once stayed in a small town in Morocco for a few weeks. There wasn’t a grocery store nearby,…

> if you wanted chicken, they killed it in front of you. Needless to say, being directly confronted with the process…I didn’t eat meat the entire time. The one time I had opportunity to kill a bird with my own hands and eat it, I ate it with far greater respect and less waste than any meat I'd ever even before or since. I wish there were an efficient way to bring the consumer closer to the animal in everyday Western…

They would definitely waste less of it, and probably consume less as well.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by account42 »

barbazoo wrote: post #262
account42 wrote: post #211

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It's not whataboutism if what you are worrying about is a drop in the bucket of overall waste.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

And if you'd read that on a real computer instead of a mobile device with a tiny screen you might actually understand it.

Re: The staff ate it later

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Post by bambax »

swat535 wrote: post #278
bambax wrote: post #161

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Not sure what the quote has to do with anything here, but it's a as good an opportunity as ever to say that large parts of the "Old Testament" draw most of its inspiration from the code of Hammurabi ("an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"), the Epic of Gilgamesh (which gave us, notably, the story of the deluge, and the dark role of the serpent) and Ancient Egypt, to which it owes, among many others, the concept of…

There are at least 2 ancient pagan flood stories: The Gilgamesh Epic and the Atrathasis Epic, both originating in ancient Mesopotamia. Because both sources predate the source of Noah's story, many scholars have concluded that Noah's flood story was borrowed from these. However, consider the following objections: - When a historical event is retold to different audiences over time, the story generally becomes more myt…

> the characters are ethically moral

How is it ethical to drown every single human, including children, because you're displeased with what they do?

And how is it ethical to also destroy "the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground" which have nothing whatsoever to do with human wickedness??

This is exactly what a Bond villain would say. Today, Bond villains are usually considered the acme of evil.

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