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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by orbital-decay »

tomalbrc wrote: post #278
orbital-decay wrote: post #269

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The supposedly cynical comment above talks about giving quadriplegic people a reliable way to control computers for <$100k, something that was science fiction before. Is this what you call exploitation of the poor and desperate by the wealthy? You have to finance things somehow, or they won't be done at all.

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As much as I dislike (current) Musk, the comment I'm responding to clearly wasn't about that. Do you see this work being done by anyone else? I don't. And yes, it has the potential to turn dystopian, sure. Don't let it. I don't know how some people manage to see everything as strictly black and white.

Being called a bot was unexpected, to put it mildly.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by WalterBright »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #217
ACCount37 wrote: post #202

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"Inferior?" Neuralink's tech is SOTA. Before Neuralink, there was no major investment into BCI tech as far as eye could see - because medicine is where innovation goes to die. We've gone from Utah arrays in 1990 to Utah arrays in 2020. All while computing and AI - the other key enablers of neural interfaces - advanced in leaps and bounds.

Neuralink maybe. Do you remember how much attention he got for his stupid submarine during the Thai cave rescue?

I have lots of ideas. Some are great, some are ordinary, and some turn out to be embarrassingly stupid.

So does everyone else who tries to create new things. Edison had dumb ideas, too, like his mining ideas. The Wrights also had dumb ideas like their persistence with wing warping, and the canard stabilizer.

The sub thing didn't hurt anyone, it was an emergency so he didn't have much time to think about it, so really it's uncharitable to slam him for trying to help.

Do you think his rockets are dumb ideas, too? Starlink? Tesla?

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Post by homefree »

ActorNightly wrote: post #211
homefree wrote: post #107

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It's exactly what a partisan reddit midwit would say and they're overrepresented when it comes to Elon Musk hatred. There used to be less of that on HN, my theory is younger accounts that are more politically extreme/lefty are now here as the younger generation graduates school and posts more on HN. There's some historical irony too since communism came out of highly educated academic elites and is responsible for an…

Thanks for proving my point by demonstrating you can't comprehend reality. You assume that anything anti conservative must be in the Bernie Sanders camp of full left. In reality, the modern democrats are pretty much the exact center. Any sensible traditional right leaning policy like free market capitalism, gun ownership, and immigration enforcement is already part of the liberal Democratic platform. The reason that…

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by m00x »

tomhow wrote: post #251
m00x wrote: post #237

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> Maybe spend more time researching than hating and you'll end up with a more factual state of the world. The comment you were replying to was the kind of dismissal we want to avoid on HN, but we need you to avoid swipes like this on HN. The comment would been fine without that last line. Please try to observe the guidelines, especially these ones: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Ed…

Is my last line not something we want to teach people in this community? It's not snark if it's sincere.

I'd rather use encouraging words than moderation but use the method you prefer, it's your platform.

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Post by natch »

ActorNightly wrote: post #205
marknutter wrote: post #92

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"anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic party" isn't something anyone who's actually intelligent would ever say.

Yes because it makes perfect sense to vote for convicted felon, most likely a child molester, who tried to coup the government when he lost in 2025, with Project 2025 behind his back. That act alone pretty much disqualifies you from being able to talk about intelligence in the first place.

Four false turds packaged up in haughty fake outrage does not mean you have given us a golden truth. The democrats chose an unimaginably bad candidate and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by distortionfield »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #254
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #243

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Things have costs so we should be ok with a society where the wealthy exploit poor and desperate people?

Exploiting? I’m lefty, but this dude volunteered for the procedure and was fully reimbursed. I’m having a really hard time seeing “exploited” on this one.

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Post by sMarsIntruder »

fuzzylightbulb wrote: post #219
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #195

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I would argue a lot of Musk haters are not getting a representative sample of his behavior, but rather only the most outrageous things he says and does, which tend to be the things that penetrate their bubble.

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Is the “nazi salute”, still a thing? It seems like accusations involving it are increasingly used as a tool to delegitimize, because cmon.. you can’t agree with him, but that wasn’t a nazi salute.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by jjcob »

WalterBright wrote: post #280
jakeydus wrote: post #72

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I hope not, I'd rather have fewer narcissistic sociopaths in the world. He only cares about himself and what people think of him. Nothing he does is to benefit other people. He's not Iron Man, he's Lex Luthor. I guess people have always idolized the creeps of the world, though.

> Nothing he does is to benefit other people The only way Elon makes money is through people voluntarily giving it to him in exchange for what he creates.

That, and billions of government contracts and subsidies.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Post by thinkingemote »

distortionfield wrote: post #287
bluefirebrand wrote: post #254

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Things have costs so we should be ok with a society where the wealthy exploit poor and desperate people?

Exploiting? I’m lefty, but this dude volunteered for the procedure and was fully reimbursed. I’m having a really hard time seeing “exploited” on this one.

According to the left exploitation can occur when people choose and are paid for it.

For example demeaning work. Also much of slavery, indentured servitude in the past was chosen and fully reimbursed. Most classic lefties would say all work is exploitation under capitalism.

It's the idea of individualism mostly seen on the right wing and the modern/American democratic left that says that people make free and rational choices in an amoral economic model. When money sets the rules there is no exploitation. I think the reality isn't so black and white and people can make good and bad decisions.

So while I agree he probably wasn't exploited it doesn't mean that others in the same place doing the same things will not be.

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