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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by Propelloni »

prof-dr-ir wrote: post #119
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

I am very interested in moving my photos and data to a self-hosted solution but am a little anxious about backups. Do you simply trust hetzner to not lose the data on your 1TB storage box? (I am aware that I am currently trusting google and dropbox to do just that.)

Set up your Hetzner boxes in a European location so that they are in the same network zone. Activate automatic snapshots and Hetzner does 7 snapshots (a full image of your box) a day. The snapshot is never saved at the same location as the server running your box, but at one of the other locations in the same network zone.

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Post by nine_k »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #201
rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

I'm in the process of switching from Gmail to FastMail. They were the only ones who met one of my requirements: Receive all email for all my domains and deliver it to one inbox with labels. I really like that they offer a Gmail migration, including an initial import and _ongoing Inbox sync_. It only syncs the Inbox though, not spam (which is sometimes legit, especially with Gmail) or mail that gets immediately archiv…

> can't migrate stars/icons for emails.

(1) Create s label for starred emails, eg "Star-struck". A Unicode star would do if you like it literal.

(2) In gmail, search for "is:starred", mark all on the page, then "mark all matching emails".

(3) Drop the "Star-struck" tag on them. Now you can migrate it as a normal tag.

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Post by blueredmodern »

tgma wrote: post #186

I don't understand the logic. I mean if you hate Google, or you specifically want to avoid Google having your data sure, but whichever email provider you choose will have at some point access to your plaintext email and they may choose to store it. There's no such thing as real end-to-end encrypted email unless the sender actively does so or you run the server yourself (and be online to do the TLS handshake when some…

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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by freehorse »

FireBeyond wrote: post #155
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

I use Fastmail with my own domain. I am not sure of the logic that says paying $60/year for email is fine, but $8/year for a domain is a bridge too far. Do that, it's a non-issue, though I do agree with you that it shouldn't be a thing (or at least have like a multiple year embargo on the address).

Using domain for identification carries a similar risk though? If for whatever reason you stop renting the domain somebody else can rent your identification. You are not locked into an email provider but you are locked into a rented domain and the whole domain marketplace rules, by extension. At least with most email providers your email address is not supposed to be resold (likely with fastmail too judging by the responses).

Am I missing something?

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Post by jordibc »

HackerNewt-doms wrote: post #236
jordibc wrote: post #105

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I found myself in a similar situation and also started de-googling, which is much nicer and liberating than I was fearing. I did the exact same thing with Immich (what a great software, by the way!). And in case it helps: Instead of always relying on google maps, I now mostly use CoMaps ( https://www.comaps.app/ ). Way better than using directly OpenStreetMap. And for my Pixel 7, I switched to LineageOS with gapps (…

Why did you switch to LineageOS and not Graphene with your pixel 7?

Convenience. It will be maintained for much longer. And I'm used to it by now.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by hexfish »

litmus-pit-git wrote: post #234
nine_k wrote: post #138

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Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

My friend uses a pretty hardened (as per him; I didn't indulge him when he wanted to give me the gory details) Graphene setup on his few years old Pixel. Bank apps - as per him none work. Uber (no Lyft here; other taxi apps) work flawless. Payment apps, he said is a coin toss. On his phone even WhatsApp doesn't work. He anyway prefers Signal (which prob. nobody else uses in his circle except maybe me who has it insta…

Re: the bank apps: that really depends on the bank and the country. I live in a eu-west country and there are afaik no apps that do not run on Graphene (which did suprise me I must admit).

Whatsapp can work if you use sandboxed Google Play (I still use a Google account, I just don't want gplay to have effectively root on my device).

Depending on the level of integrity check your app might just work. Gory details: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...

And like others said: no contactless payment, but I dont use that personally anyway.

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Post by soraminazuki »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #276
soraminazuki wrote: post #272

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Are you the type of person who thinks it's okay to dump garbage on your neighbor's lawn because governments haven't been successful at stopping pollution? Because that's the extract same rhetoric you're using.

It's OK that you don't want to answer the question.

It's okay that you can't comprehend a straightforward answer.

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Post by amaccuish »

octo888 wrote: post #159
nine_k wrote: post #138

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Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

Contactless payments is the the big one that doesn't work and probably won't. You can do in app payments via Google pay though Many banking apps work fine though not all.

Luckily my German bank (Volksbank) has its own NFC app on Android. Much maligned years ago when it was announced (why can't they just let me use Google Pay??), I at least have come to the conclusion that it has granted me a freedom that Google does not.
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