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I'm French and every idiot supports it, even the so-called left. There is nothing I can do except donate money every month to GrapheneOS ( https://grapheneos.org/donate ). Democracy is dead for me.
Note that chat control has been a top concern of governments since there were governments. The Roman Empire banned private clubs, seeing them as a source of revolution.
HN applauds this vibe-coded “privacy” site yet condemns decentralized messaging. States control what’s centralized; incentives ensure they keep doing so. Protesting it is like arguing with a thermostat—it can’t hear you, and it’s built to tighten control. As technologists, we have a lot more power than we realise. (Yes, I’m speaking to the blob, but the Venn overlap of anti-crypto and pro-this seems big.)
>decentralized messaging This doesn't help, Chat Control scanner run directly on your device. It doesn't matter which chat program you use.
> ... providers to search all private chats, messages, and emails automatically for suspicious content [1]
Even if that were the case, the answer is the Framework phone
In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?
In the US we also enjoy probably the most expansive protection of speech in the world at present. Our own government created Tor. Yet simultaneously the majority of the population willingly hands over the minute details of their daily lives to half a dozen or more megacorps for the sake of some minor conveniences. It's beyond perplexing. I suspect we may be the most internally inconsistent civilization to have ever existed.
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there's no problem with it being vibe-coded The point is that the site, contacting your local MEP, and all the discussion in this thread, is pointless to affect some kind of durable societal change Pointing out that it's vibe-coded just emphasises that all of the above actions are just low-effort cope
Can you suggest an alternative action?
Can't enforce everyone to scan
What are you going to do? Arrest everyone?
Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups. The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating po…
I personally support age verification for porn. However, age verification for almost anything else, e.g. Reddit, is a terrible idea.
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> Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large. Not enough protests. Not enough dissent America has been trashed not by Covid but by the precedence being set that partisan violence can and will be pardoned.
I don't quite understand your point. I also meant covid policies. Not covid itself.
Which is a much bigger problem than "stay home a bit to avoid unintentionally killing people".
In the US, we have government programs like PRISM and unchecked oligopolies that surveil us and use that information to identify dissent, sell us ads, and alter our behavior. In the EU, there are these initiatives to surveil us in the name of safety. Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another?
yeah, Japan
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> Is there any regime out there who's not trying to mass-surveil their citizens for one reason or another? Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large. Not enough protests. Not enough dissent. Now politicians know they can turn the power knob as high as they want and nothing will happen. Less and less dissent will be allowed, just like during covid. If you fail…
> Covid authoritarian policies were hugely successful and supported by mainstream people by and large. They were temporary and saved lives. Keyword here is temporary. Of course COVID denialists are angry at it but they won in the USA now so we'll be happy getting more deaths and disabilities now that they are removing our ability to vaccinate ourselves.
I was very pissed at this, and when I read this part I couldn't continue, it boiled my blood. > *EU politicians exempt themselves from this surveillance under "professional secrecy" rules. They get privacy. You and your family do not. Demand fairness.
A lot of actual pedophiles will be exposed if it was used on politicians, we don't want that.
The end of anonymity online basically means an end to the internet era itself. We will effectively be rewinding time to the 1980s, when the only news sources were controlled by oligopolies, and dissident voices were simply not given a platform. That might be fine in a world where every country is on-board, but now that the internet exists, countries with anonymous free speech will come out ahead. Here's a darker thou…
The authoritarian mindset that thinks that making something illegal will stop people from doing it, doesn't really grok how that just doesn't work.