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Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by wiseowise »

m-s-y wrote: post #264
motorest wrote: post #163

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> Homebrew is “just” a package manager, not the core of part of Google. Yes, this. Sometimes I wonder if those coming up with the Homebrew example have any experience whatsoever with software development. I mean, sure the project is popular and surely doesn't hurt on a resume. But does it showcase any level of technical expertise or mastery? No, I'm afraid not. I would bet that the majority of software engineers woul…

>does it showcase any level of technical expertise or mastery? No, I'm afraid not. But it does show that he can develop and ship a popular product, something outside the capability of so many “great engineers”. Good luck generating any revenue on the backs of smart engineers that have no stomach for understanding the nuance of development over and above writing and checking in code.

It says nothing about fitting office culture of Google, or generating successful projects, for that matter. If he’s so good, how come there’s nothing else besides brew?

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by mystraline »

yubblegum wrote: post #276
mystraline wrote: post #274

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> Many of us did in fact, in this very forum, kept pointing out that dumping on GPL (and the man and his ideas behind it) was a mistake and that non-gpl oss was for chumps. And we were greyed to oblivion. I'm not entirely sure that was intentional. On Reddit, it would be called 'brigading', and basically getting your corpo-techbros to -4 and flagkill posts. If done fast enough, you only need 5 500+ karma accounts to…

The fact that the management of this forum, who are VCs, permitted such a mechanism is part of the "own it, HN" assertion. HN has baked in something like 'peter principle' into the forum. Karma Grifters who post articles that get them over the 500 points are then ala Peter Principle granted the right to 'grey out' actual thoughtful comments. Are you telling the management of this outfit never looked into this phenome…

> Are you telling the management of this outfit never looked into this phenomena?

To counter, I think that HN is being used as a testcase to shove techbro and VC ideology across all of tech. And secondly, its some of the most potent tech market research. Its a textsearch goldmine.

I believe YC knew what they were doing, and intentionally chose this course of action.

I'm guessing you're not in the VC or founder club. I only found about that https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented

> Additionally, founders of YC companies see each other's usernames show up in orange, which — although not an explicit benefit — does allow fellow YC founders to immediately identify one another in discussions.

Even with the significant bias here, I still read it. I also read lobsters as well, which is here minus techbro insanity.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Post by [deleted] »

vdupras wrote: post #240
TrackerFF wrote: post #217

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To be fair with Anthropic, they probably get unfathomably many applications for everything, on top of the cold calls/emails. They're one of the hottest companies in the world, so I'd expect tens of thousands of applicants. Media writing about $100m+ hiring deals in AI does not help, either.

Aren't they an AI company? Couldn't they sort it out? If Anthropic, of all companies, can't sort out incoming job applications, what exactly are their tools for?

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Post by htrp »

robpanico333 wrote: post #271
pentamassiv wrote: post #27

Hey, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for submitting this. If you have any questions feel free to ask and please let me know how the writing was. It's one of my first posts so I'd like to improve

This lands. I discovered an emergent feature in GTP40 and when I tried to post about it on the developer forum, the spam filter removed my post. I asked GPT40 to rewrite it for me. I posted the update, and got banned. There's too much 'noise'. People like Einstein and Tesla would've gone unnoticed today, as I doubt they would've become "social media influencers" just to promote their ideas.

edison was pretty good at self promo

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Post by ryandrake »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #200
JdeBP wrote: post #184

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As discussed at length on this page at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44808807 .

Cool. Thanks for the link, but I wasn't actually trying to steal anyone's thunder, and ... I did read the article. Just felt that it wouldn't hurt to link to it. Also, that discussion gets pretty mean. Didn't feel like I wanted to send people there. I just wanted to give the guy a pat on the back, and bring some humor into it. Been there. Sucks.

I don't know--As a non-celebrity tech worker, it's actually kind of comforting to see a company that doesn't just automatically roll out the red carpet and grease internal wheels, just because a candidate once wrote some very popular software. It sounds like there are still companies that make you go through the same whiteboard hazing and non-deterministic hiring process as the rest of us mere mortals, regardless of how well known you are.

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Post by foxglacier »

mystraline wrote: post #275
pentamassiv wrote: post #27

Hey, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for submitting this. If you have any questions feel free to ask and please let me know how the writing was. It's one of my first posts so I'd like to improve

You should change the license to AGPL and 'custom, contact for payment details', and provide a link to this as why you did so. Simply put, anything not a viral license like GPL allows parasitization by companies effectively living off FLOSS devs, with absolutely nothing to gain. Human rights under GPL were meant to apply to humans, not '3 lawyers in a trench coat' (corporations). They can make their decisions (snubbi…

Some people want others to freely use their software and choose MIT precisely because it's more free than GPL. There's nothing wrong with just making something for free and giving it away if that's what you want. Not everybody has to be chasing money in all their activities.

The author said he was proud of this outcome and nervous at how widely his hobby project will be deployed. That sounds like the ambition of many open source authors and a win. Might never have happened with GPL.

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Post by htrp »

pmontra wrote: post #214
mnmalst wrote: post #94

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They could literally give him 100k, 1mil or even 10mil which would still be a rounding error in their books.

Don't know. A company can have a huge valuation on the stock market but that does not necessarily mean that they have cash to pay wages or can afford to pay a large team. If all they have are stocks they have to find somebody that buys those stocks with cash, then find a way not to run out of those money before selling more stocks. Eventually do an exit and stop worrying or become profitable.

they are raising another billion dollar round

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Post by ryandrake »

skeezyboy wrote: post #246
petcat wrote: post #194

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None of those people ever applied for a job at Big Corp where one of the most important aspects is to be able to work well with other people and tactfully navigate the social structure of the company.

being a dick has not hindered there prospects. id argue dickheads are more prevalent in tech due to the prevalence of autism

Nobody is saying it hinders their prospects in general. They're just saying that "being a dick" is incompatible with a specific kind of job: one that requires collaborative and cooperative work with other people and navigating the social hierarchy of a company.

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Post by tkdb »

pentamassiv wrote: post #27

Hey, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for submitting this. If you have any questions feel free to ask and please let me know how the writing was. It's one of my first posts so I'd like to improve

Fun write up, lovely irony (if your work did actually help AI auto-reject you).

If I was you, I would probably feel similar "you used my project, you probably want to hire me!"

But there's a logical fallacy there.

Your creation being useful to a person or company ≠ you being a fit to work with/for them full time.

Still, you deserved human eyes on the question from their side.

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Post by sigmoid10 »

cnst wrote: post #237
sigmoid10 wrote: post #235

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>The only exception has been JaneStreet Huh. I guess if you decide to make OCaml your company's primary programming language, you have to take what you can when it comes to devs.

Yes and no, I imagine the biggest qualification for Jane Street would still be humility and not OCaml interest or expertise, and the pay probably has something to do with people's desire to apply, too.

I wasn't talking about why people would apply, I was talking about the statement that they responded fast to a cold application. Generally speaking, if you drop a ton of applications for what I assume is a lack of willingness or skill to deal with OCaml, that certainly factors in your hiring process.
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