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Re: Eleven Music

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Post by lmpdev »

rpdillon wrote: post #191
lmpdev wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree on the rock album being overly expensive to record Any decent studio can make a U87 on vocals, DI bass, Fender amp and several SM57s on drums sound as good as almost any album from 1970-2010 Hell I’ve seen a five part band get away with three mics total including drums and it was a smash hit Rock “died” because culture moved on, not because of it being inherently expensive to record (which it’s not)

I don't have any special industry experience. I went on a tear a few weeks ago and watched a bunch of Rick Beato's videos on YouTube. I didn't know the guy before running across his work, but he has 5 million subscribers and he sure sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He's been a music producer for 30 years. Anyway, he was the one that made the point that we don't sign rock bands anymore in the sense that t…

I agree 100% that mic-ing live drums is by far the hardest and most expensive element in rock recording

But in the 1970s-2000s it was complete black magic and without dedicating years to the craft - you were up to the whims of studios for how much you pay

Compare that today, for instance have a look at the Jazz-Rock Fusion band Vulfpeck’s first album. If you exclude the cost of instruments - they often only need three (rather cheap) mics. Everything else DI. Recorded in a basement for less than a couple grand - with effectively infinite recording time

Live drums are expensive compared to samples, but they’re not the reason an entire genre disappeared

Re: Eleven Music

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Post by moritzwarhier »

viccis wrote: post #276
moritzwarhier wrote: post #244

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I did not want to argue in favor of AI-generated music (although of course, an artist can use any tool). Regarding Händel, I think you are misunderstanding my argument. What I meant is that, to my knowledge, his music was, at his times, a lot more pleasing to the popular tastes among his audience than, for example, Bach's. The size or class of that audience was not my point, or that the production and commissioning o…

>Some art is "challenging", but still artistically uninteresting and uninspired. I agree and would include 12 tone music (and specifically the Darmstadt School) in this category, as well as others like Xenakis. I think they should have been laughed out of performance halls and shunned, just like so many hack musicians were pre-20th century before classical music lost its gatekeepers (almost all art did with the death…

I see your point there regarding the money/power of the audience being a substitute for popularity with different interests, weakening my claim that Händel would've been "like a pop musician" at his times".

Sure, the comparison was probably painted with a brush that was too broad, thus flawed.

I should have gone into some more detail there regarding the music patronage demography

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