Switched to ChatGPT, what is this google thing?
So you switched from one evil megacorporation to another evil megacorporation? Good job.
How I Use Kagi
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#282Awesome post, love Kagi and learned some new things. One small gripe tho: publishing a "block list" and implying its for SEO sites, but then including sites like Facebook, Medium, WebMD, NyPost, Quora, TikTok, etc. is just goofy. "SEO" to me means "overly-long articles on niche topics that provide bad info just to sell ads", not "news sites I don't like"!
All of these sites pretend to have useful content, but require an account to view it, which makes them SEO spam in my view.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
You probably have an adblocker running. I also did this test with ‘Canada eta’ and got the expected result on top. But when I reloaded the page without my content blockers, the official Canadian website was more than 1.5 iPad screen scrolls down.
> You probably have an adblocker running. Yeah, of course. Anyone with a brain does. But "Kagi doesn't have ads" is a different statement than "Kagi's results are better than Google's." I've never seen anyone actually give a search term that Kagi does better at.
Isn’t a lack of adverts a prime reasons ‘Kagi’s results are better than Google’s’?
I hear the odd person say that they like the adverts but it’s hard to believe that’s a plus for the bulk of users.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you can't judge that funding war criminals is a wrong action, you should reconsider your ability to do so morally Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, startup founders aren't exactly known for putting anything else above money and their ideas, particularly actual human well-being. Consider that you, too, will have to live in the world that you help create, including the consequences of "a mere 2%"
Is Yandex directly complicit in war crimes?
They are accused of sending Ukrainian users data to the Russian state.
Also, ‘In August 2024, the company was accused of collaborating with the Federal Security Service (FSB) to direct users to fake websites for the Freedom of Russia Legion and the Russian Volunteer Corps, groups composed of Russian supporters of Ukraine. The websites collected data from Russians who may be interested in joining the organisations and supporting Ukraine.’
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is Yandex directly complicit in war crimes?
Following that reasoning, is Gazprom invading a country? No? Then I guess we should buy their gas. Why not send the latest and greatest ASML lithography machine to Mikron? It's not like they're actually launching the missile using the processor they manufacture. And so on. You can see the problem with this...
It would be interesting to know people’s views on sanctions against Russia, as these are a key tool against Russia and the logic is much as you have described here.
My guess is that HN users don’t support sanctions.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't vouch for the source, but this provides a factual chronology of Yandex's (forced) integration into Russian state propaganda: https://www.zois-berlin.de/en/publications/zois-spotlight/th...
Okay, propaganda, sure. Propaganda is a different argument - it compromises the quality of search - and I will happily agree with you. I want to emphasize, that the claim was: using Yandex through Kagi is supporting war criminals. Which war criminals? Which war crimes is Yandex complicit in? I plainly do not accept that propaganda === war crimes.
>I plainly do not accept that propaganda === war crimes
I'd say propaganda is often necessary, and usually successful, at allowing governments to execute war crimes. I think most modern war crimes are lied out of existence by propaganda outlets like Yandex (or any number of US news outlets at other points in recent history).
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The moment politics influences search results is the moment we stop being a search engine. Everything is politics, whether you acknowledge it or not. And right now you are taking a political stance.
> Everything is politics, whether you acknowledge it or not. And right now you are taking a political stance. No, not everything is politics. Kagi is a well-made tool, and part of the reason why it works so well is exactly because it tries not to be political. Thanks to the founder's reply, we know it ranks its sources based on utility to its users. Part of being a search engine is allowing the users to be exposed to…
One of the criticisms of Yandex is that it sanitises its results to align with Kremlin wishes. If accurate, how does that help you?
For what it’s worth, I went to Yandex and tried searching Bucha, Navalny and a few other topics and the results seemed inline with Google, so I’m wondering about the accuracy of that claim (or is it a geographic thing?).
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You probably have an adblocker running. Yeah, of course. Anyone with a brain does. But "Kagi doesn't have ads" is a different statement than "Kagi's results are better than Google's." I've never seen anyone actually give a search term that Kagi does better at.
Isn’t a lack of adverts a prime reasons ‘Kagi’s results are better than Google’s’? I hear the odd person say that they like the adverts but it’s hard to believe that’s a plus for the bulk of users.
As mentioned, an ad blocker fixes that, too. Ads aside, the actual search results don't seem to be any different.
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#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
let's not pretend that US democracy, flaws included, is in any way comparable to Russia. Please, you know this is a bad faith argument, so let's cut the false equivalence. I dislike the US as much as anyone, but I appreciate that the US is much better than Russia.
What makes you so certain the US is less bad than Russia?
I’m deeply skeptical of the US.
But how are the US and Russia behaving the same way?
Can you give an equivalent US atrocity to what’s happening in Ukraine right now?