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Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Cyber warfare is really reaching a new peak in Ukraine, and not just the more-traditional cyberattacks like this. The target is of note; the drones themselves are the thing that's setting this war apart from all of the primarily human powered wars of the past centuries. Drones have revolutionized reconnaissance, sabotage, and munitions interception. Relative to their material cost, they can be terrifically destructiv…

Remains to be seen if the lessons of this war extend to other possible wars though.

It is possible that FPV drones are showing up as so important because Russia is committed to a disgusting meat sluice of fodder to achieve its marginal territory gains.

Most countries don’t have the appetite for those kind of losses. Most countries, frankly, don’t have the audacity to set these kinds of war aims.

I predict they won’t matter too much to the war meta. At least not so much as cheap long range jet drones which are also becoming significant here.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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I am working for a medium sized Swiss company. We're coding our own ERP, based on a nightmare of a stack. We call it "security by confusion". An attacker would maybe find its way in, but he'll never find the way out. If he destroys 90% of our code, we'll still be up and running, because 95% of the codebase is obsolete.

lol, I don’t know if this is scary or impressive :)

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Modern IT practices don’t really contemplate disaster recovery. Even organisations with strict backup procedures seldom test recovery (most never at all). Everything is quickly strapped together due to teams being understaffed. Preparing infrastructure in a way such that it can easily be recreated is easily twice the effort as “just” setting it up the usual way.

Actually I think this is hard to properly implement. If you're a small shop, really setting up backups with redundancies, writing the documentation, and testing disaster recovery, that's so much more work than people anticipate, and it has implications on all areas of the business, not just IT. So usually it's hard to justify to management why you would put in all that work and slow down operations—which leads to eve…

Indeed. Setting up infrastructure properly and documenting it properly is even more complex than coding, to me.

I can go back to code I wrote months or years ago, and assuming I architectured and documented it idiomatically, I takes me only a bit of time to start being able to reason about it effectively.

With infrastructure is it a whole different story. Within weeks of not touching it (which happens if it just works) I start to have trouble retaining a good mental model of it. if I have to dig into it, I'll have to spend a lot of time getting re-acquainted with how it all fits together again.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Yeh, it would seem in some ways more useful than shutting down the factory; if you gently made all the drones do something, like let them be remote controlled, or bomb the place they were launched from.

But once that happened a handful of times it would be corrected. I suppose it could be used sparingly but Ukraine would have no way of knowing when to use it. Perhaps a Bluetooth or whatever else the drone has on board "keep away" beacon for vips.

You say that, but Israel booby trapped the Hezbollah comm devices _twice_ with physical explosives.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Czechia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Vrb%C4%9Btice_ammunition_... Bulgaria: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/01/arms-dealer-10... Poland: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/12/poland-to-clos... And UK. Plus a million cyberattacks against all sorts of infrastructure.

So then how come hasn't Article 5 been activated yet? Does that mean that said Article 5 is not even worth the piece of paper it has been written on?

Article 5 is an option. Not a game mechanic.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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They had a warrant for the raid. Or at least they showed me a piece of paper, but my mind was so thrown that I literally couldn't read it (I've never experienced such a thing before or since - I literally couldn't make out letters on the page, such was my state of shock at the time). I wasn't arrested or charged, they found nothing of what they were looking for on the multi terabytes of disks they seized. No further…

Did they eventually return your gear?

> (After 8 months they told me to pick up all my gear, they found nothing, but thanks for traumatising my kids)

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Why would you be able to sue the government for conducting a search authorized by a judge? It's expected that result of some searches is "Oopsie doopsie nothing found".

You could sue if they made some major mistakes or were fabricating evidence or some other significant malpractice. It's a pretty high bar.

You can but chances are you'll still lose.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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In the USA? Where you can be sued if someone slips on your sidewalk? Can't you sue the gvmt?

Australia. We looked into anything that could be done to minimise the chances of such a thing happening to innocent parties, but the only option was to make a complaint about an individual officer. There's no (easy, obvious) way to question the system they use to determine "validity" of raids or due diligence prior to requesting a warrant, or evidence required to justify a warrant. The whole thing just felt to me lik…

It's good for children in the US to learn early that they can't trust the police.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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In the USA? Where you can be sued if someone slips on your sidewalk? Can't you sue the gvmt?

Australia. We looked into anything that could be done to minimise the chances of such a thing happening to innocent parties, but the only option was to make a complaint about an individual officer. There's no (easy, obvious) way to question the system they use to determine "validity" of raids or due diligence prior to requesting a warrant, or evidence required to justify a warrant. The whole thing just felt to me lik…

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