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> Playing with daddy's money Personal attacks like this are not ok. Sure, criticize their actions, but don't parlay that into this kind of personal swipe at the individuals and their families; that's when the line is crossed from valid critique of actions to nasty mob pile-on, and that's never ok here. Not that it should matter but as far as I can tell, the Pickle founder/CEO grew up and studied in Korea, and we have…
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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
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Isn't that a very outspoken objective of YC, to fund people, not ideas? Long time ago I caught up to what YC is doing, but even when I first joined HN back in like 2013 I think the whole "Fund people, not ideas" shtick was already explicitly what they were doing, unless I remember wrong.
Isn't "fund people" just hiring without the extra steps?
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
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When interviewers use LLM gargbage to filter out participants, expect candidates to do the same.
I don't use LLMs to filter out participants and I expect candidates not to use LLMs to cheat.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
#284We are in a crisis of morals. There has always been trashy people but since 2020 it feels like a lack of morals is rewarded more than ever.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
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I'm having trouble mustering sympathy.
If our rights are contingent on taste then we have no rights at all.
If the software in question was explicitly intended for illegal purposes, would you still take the same position?
For me, moral lines exist. I don’t defend the right of people to profit from immoral acts.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
#286One starts to wonder whether the LLM vendors laissez-faire approach to the legality of ingesting copyrighted / licensed material will start to infect the industry in general?
I have yet to hear a convincing case for why what the LLM vendors did/do is different than what humans do to learn and become proficient in producing their own work. Do you owe everyone you have ever read a royalty for influencing your writing style or voice? How about for all the other things you have leaned and become competent in? There is a bigger issue here that is related to what humanity actually is and how we…
Humans don't read other codebases en masse. Hell, I haven't read the entirety of our own codebase. I learned by doing, from books (that I paid for or legally borrowed), and yes, by looking at a small amount of other people's code (permitted by the respective licenses).
Humans are not remix machines, AIs (currently) are.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
#287To a casual outside observer the quality of the companies YC invests in seems to have absolutely cratered. Have they just given up on vetting and switched to a throw money at everything approach?
> Have they just given up on vetting and switched to a throw money at everything approach? this is exactly their business model. almost word for word.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
I, for one, deserted GitHub, and do not use for anything else personal anymore. I'm not against permissive licensing, but all my code will be (A)GPLv3 or later. A particular project I'm working on will be on a private Git server until I complete and open it as a package. Even after that, I might keep the development closed and release tarballs only (aka Catherdral Model). All code I write is also AI-Free. It won't be…
if you ever used github for anything other than agpl3 you're doing it wrong
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have yet to hear a convincing case for why what the LLM vendors did/do is different than what humans do to learn and become proficient in producing their own work. Do you owe everyone you have ever read a royalty for influencing your writing style or voice? How about for all the other things you have leaned and become competent in? There is a bigger issue here that is related to what humanity actually is and how we…
> I have yet to hear a convincing case for why what the LLM vendors did/do is different than what humans do to learn and become proficient in producing their own work. Humans don't read other codebases en masse. Hell, I haven't read the entirety of our own codebase. I learned by doing, from books (that I paid for or legally borrowed), and yes, by looking at a small amount of other people's code (permitted by the resp…
Moreover humans learn and evolve their knowledge from other experiences other than books and others’ code.
As you said LLMs just remix something semi randomly according to a weighted graph with no underlying knowledge or understanding whatsoever.
Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]
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Sure but it sort of devalues labor. If a corporation is stealing your OSS code (and violating a license) then that implies that they think your code has value, they might have paid a person to write that code but instead some hobbyist built it for free and a corporation steals it. A few months ago, I made a pull request to LMAX Disruptor, which was merged. I was initially excited because even if my PR was simple it’s…
> But after a few minutes it occurred to me that I just did free labor for a for-profit trading company. If they merged in my code then must have thought it had some value, and I decided to dedicate my time to saving this multi million dollar company some money. If you're not ok with that possibility than you probably shouldn't be participating in open source. And to be clear, there is nothing wrong with that. Its up…
Which is why I have stopped participating in it. If I am doing work that provides value to a company then they should pay me for it.